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The Frontline / Re: The Problem with Perth Metal
« on: December 04, 2008, 02:31:46 PM »
OK.  Lets assume first up that this is not a local WFer with a hidden agenda or a random troller, and I will attempt to reply as if this topic is serious.   Let me start by saying thank you for including my band in those that you see as having value, I think so too.  ;D  In a post as long as your there is invariably some shit that is gonna piss people off and some they will agree with, so naturally some points you make actually strike me as having some accuracy, some don't.

Metal WAS once an underground subculture, a haven for the disaffected, the angry and those who didn't feel a connection to society.  To some people it still is, or should always be, but that is not the way the world works.  We can talk up Metal as being a lifestyle choice or a culture of its own, but as its root it is MUSIC.  Music reaches out and touches everyone differently, some hear it as a deep emotional message or an outpouring of rage or indignity.  Others hear a wail of despair, a cry for help, or just a way of venting all their rage and frustration.  (that's my reason for writing, if I don't vent my hate I could kill someone).  Others hear the power, the driving rhythms, the raw unrestrained energy and the feeling of empowerment that comes with it.  
And then there is the new breed of metalheads, those who only hear the music itself and not the message behind it, the flesh but not the soul.  
To those of us who look deeper into the Metal, who really Believe, we can't identify with these people, it's like we are the worshippers at our church every Sunday while they are the ones who go to church on Christmas day only, they seem hollow. foriegn, halfbreeds, invaders of our realm.  So I understand why you find them to be "posers" and "Normals", but we can't write them off as estraneous and unwelcome because we all started off as explorers in this dark new world, time will weed out the unMetal.  

The thing is, Metal originally came from working class, downtrodden origins, places where people see themselves being born, living and dying pointlessly.  That still is true today in some cases, but Metal is more than an artform, it is a living, morphing organism that evolves and mutates constantly, molding itself to the demographic around it.  In one area the raw hatred of the NYHC sound might best identify with the locals, while across town the less angry crowd might be stirred by Metalcore, Metal does not follow rules, it simply IS.  You mentioned Slipknot, not your cup of tea - cool with me - but they hail from Demoine, apparently THE most boring city in the US and so it is no wonder they styled themselves as freeks, Metal was and still is their lifeline to a world outside their humdrum existence.  Is it Heavy?  Not particularly.  Is it Metal?  If metal is indeed - as you said - an artform, they these guys are art incarnate, and thus Metal as fuck.  METAL is not METAL anymore, it is a monster that has grown beyond control and spawned into into coutless genres, sub-genres and sub-sub-genres, we respect and revere its creators and its origins but we have outgrown them and there is NO going back.  Adapt.

Why is it concidered so bad, so impure to have commercial success?  I am in a band which is so hard to categorise that it seems unlikely that we will ever see any real sucess, and I dream of the kind of exposure that bands like Machine Head enjoy.  Music of every kind is marketted to the masses by soulless corperations who care little about the music, only profits, right?  Wrong.  Talk to Dyson about that, see a bloke who exports, promotes and sweats metal because he loves it and believes in it.  He could make more from one 16 year old bimbo with a braindead pop number in a week than he is likely to see promoting metal over the next ten years.  Sales mean exposure.  Exposure means more sales, and on it goes like a loop.  I could give a fuck about the sales but the exposure is invaluable, that is what commercial success is all about.  I hate to break it to you, but Disembowlment sold their souls too or you wouldn't have even heard of them.  Accept it, there is no way around it.

You have objections with casual conversation at gigs and online because it is irrelevant to Heavy Metal, stop me if I'm misinterpretting things.  Let me use Daz as an example:  He runs a metal site.  He promotes metal bands.  He busts his ass to make gigs happen. He manages.  He does vocals in a metal band.  He goes to Europe annually to drown himself in Metal.  He IS metal in this state.  Yesterday we chatted... about Star Wars, no mention of metal was made.  What I am saying is that Metal is in our blood, it is our secret lover and our musical and artist need, but it isn't ALL we are about, why is wrong with people with a common interest discussing pointless things?  I agree that WF is chockfull of irrelevant topics, retarded posts and sometimes incredibly stupid people, but most of us know each other well and have exhausted the realms of metal discussion.  I LIKE reading that Nick and Linda have had a kid, or that my mate Haydz has a kid who collects He-man figurines because I KNOW these people, it is only outsiders who find it pointless.  Fix the problem, become ONE of US.

Although you might have made a pre-emptive strike on THAT bridge.   ;D

I have plenty more to say, check in with me later.  

The Frontline / Re: Breakups fucking suck...
« on: December 02, 2008, 04:50:12 PM »
Here's a little song I heard again recently and seemed to suit this topic:

"You see her sitting with her coffee and her paper
With her high top sneakers of Italian design
With a long cool stare she aggravates the tension
Makes up her face while she makes up her mind
Now you're in trouble, maybe she's an intellectual
What if she figures out you're not very smart
Or maybe she's the quiet type who's into heavy metal
Boy, you got to get it settled
Cause she's breaking your heart

Don't try to put on an act
You can't do that to a modern woman
And you're an old fashioned man
She understands the things you're doin'
She's a modern woman

She looks sleek and she seems so professional
She's got a lot of confidence, it's easy to see
You want to make a move
But you feel so inferior
Cause under that exterior
Is someone who's free
She's got style and she's got her own money
So she's not another honey you can quickly disarm
She's got the eyes that make you realize
She won't be hypnotized by your usual charm

You've got your plan of attack
That won't attract the modern woman
When you're an old fashioned man
She understands the things you're doin'
She's a modern woman

Time goes by and you're sharing an apartment
She says she loves you but she doesn't know why
In the morning she leaves you with your coffee and your paper
It's a strange situation for an old fashioned guy

But times have changed
Things are not the same, baby
You overcame such a bad attitude
Rock and roll just used to be for kicks
And nowadays it's politics
And after 1986 what else could be new

You got to learn to relax
And face the facts of modern woman
And you're an old fashioned man
She understands the things you're doin'
She's a modern woman"

Billy Joel. 1985 "the Bridge"

The Frontline / Re: Breakups fucking suck...
« on: November 28, 2008, 06:08:36 PM »
Relationships are never easy.  I've been with the same lady for 15 years, married for 9, it should be easy by now, right?

Fuck no, every day is a new mystery with women, a lifelong journey full of strange moodswings and painful compromise.  Some days you just gonna kep your head down and remember that death will save you eventually.   :-\

And it is worth every minute.
Hang in there dude. 

Wow, that interview was funny.  I didn't shut up for one second.   :-[

The Frontline / Re: Reputation: do we want it?
« on: July 28, 2007, 01:36:42 PM »
Yeah, it's a funny thing.

I was between -2 and 2 for six months and all within a week I dropped to -20, and I hadn't said anything rascist for weeks.  Wait, maybe that's the problem.  I'll est the theory...

I hate Boongs!

And now we wait and see.....

Western Australia / Re: This Week on ANGER MANAGEMENT...
« on: August 21, 2006, 08:18:24 PM »
Big thanks to Jez from Neverborn for getting a copy of the Rothgar cd to us. It was great to be able to play it on air for those not too familiar with the band (ie me :p)

You'l definately be hearing more of that over the next few weeks.

Cool, and it was my pleasure.

Western Australia / Re: Perth Local Metal CD?
« on: March 29, 2006, 04:10:44 AM »
I reckon it's a great idea.  It staggers me trhat Evil butterfly thought of it.   ;D

We are on the new Underearthed CD and so getting exposure over east already, but I'd definately pay out to be on any compilation you clowns can come up with.  Any exposure is good exposure.

The Frontline / Re: Perth's shittest suburb?
« on: February 06, 2006, 08:08:00 AM »
Evil Butterfly, Malaga is an industrial estate, nobody lives there to make it suck.  I reckon Malaga is a top area.

Man, any suburb can be a bad one on the wrong night.  I've been to Redfern in Sydney on Friday night and nobody hassled me, but then I've been gangbashed in the middle of Morley shopping precinct during shopping hours.  It is all relative.  It is the dudes like Dave who live in a suburb and hate it for good reason that I listen to on this, not people like Evil Butterfly who defame a whole area cos of a bunch of tonedeaf gimps outside a maccas.

My votes are with Midland, Armadale and Koondoola.

The Frontline / Re: Perth's shittest suburb?
« on: February 03, 2006, 04:21:12 AM »
Koondoola is pretty shitty.  Wilson and Bentley is pretty shitty.  Beldon is pretty pigly too.

Lockridge was the pits until it was rezoned and they chucked out the boongs.

Armadale and Kelmscott are in my book as bad as it gets.

Is it just me, or is there a direct correlation to the shittiness of a suburb and the number of "non-reflectives" in it?

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