Author Topic: Jez's Manifesto  (Read 6041 times)

0 Members and 1 Guest are viewing this topic.

Offline Catalyst

  • WF Colonel
  • *****
  • Posts: 4708
  • Reputation: -67
  • Gender: Male
  • wish you were beer.
    • View Profile
Jez's Manifesto
« on: June 29, 2010, 09:56:54 AM »
Oh, I'm about to rant.  It will be my last for awhile so I don't give a fuck if you read it or not.

Today I read the posts by Mark D and Grim and realised that they are intending to fuck off from WF because they are tired of the stupid posts and retarded arguments, and I can't say I blame them.  Daz used to keep this shit in check but he is too busy to moderate WF as often as he used to and it is sliding into shit.  You all must have seen it happening.  That link someone posted to a thread from 2006 showed me just how many good people have left and never returned, and why is that?  The ladies are almost gone now, there used to be piles of them but they can't be bothered with the shit and have gone away.

 Too many fuckwits are creating accounts just to cause shit and contribute nothing, they are ruining the site.  I mean, look at the shit we have had to stomach just in the last few months!  I'm as guilty of biting back, but if I ignore them they claim victory and I hate to back down.  So what, ignore them as they ruin the site we have loved for a decade?  There is no winning this fight.   I hate reading badly written posts with no topic, no sense, so punctuation and no fucking point at all, but it seems that every tool with only the shittiest grip on the English Language can just wander in and mouth off whenever he wants.
I hate the way that it has become "cool" for this gaggle of young Black Metal kids to come in here are bag any band that is not "
True" and nobody stands up and tells them to fuck off, or even just has the backs of the other bands.  WF has been a port we all can meet up at no matter what kind of metal we listen to, but the coherance is breaking down and these troll shitheads are generating much the negative vibe.   

I hate the fact that only yesterday another WFer messaged me to say he was threatened by yet another troll hiding behind a false name.  This sort of shit is so commonplace now that you all just ignore it, but it isn't right.  I will stand toe to toe with anyone if I have to, but this internet shit is just gutless.  Threatening people and their families and acting this way online is fucked, and defending this behaviour by explaining it away as being "BlackMetal" is just pathetic.  It needs to be clamped down on before other WF members start buying guns and sorting this shit out on the streets.

The reason I wanted to do reviews is so I am at least contributing to this site instead of just using it as a place to get annoyed.  Reviewing old material was intended to create a link between the different genres and an interest in the older bands of the Perth scene, and to give some of the oldschool WFers a reason to come back and hang around again.  But it has been a failure in that even THAT topic has arguments in it, and the old guard come back to see nothing but retarded posts, shitty trolls and bitchfights that never end because the Trolls won't let them.  Why would they stay?

I can't be fucked with all the work involved in doing reviews when all I am doing is entertaining the endless conga line of fucktards that have infested this site over the last year.  I wonder how people like Rowland cope with the amount of work he does for the tiny amount of return and respect given him, fuck it all.

I'm checking out for a couple of months.  Someone let me know when it is worth coming back.


Jez.

Offline DreadLine

  • WF Lieutenant
  • ***
  • Posts: 187
  • Reputation: -4
  • Gender: Male
    • View Profile
    • www.ozfishforsale.com.au
Re: Jez's Manifesto
« Reply #1 on: June 29, 2010, 10:55:33 AM »
well said mate. I'm really sorry it got to this point. I know I have never met u in person Jez, but I have agreed with many of ur opinions over the last year, and thoroughly enjoyed reading ur reviews. infact they have me checking back here like 3 or 4 times a day. If there is anyway I can help or contribute with the reviews and ur website let me know. As u have given me back my pride in this scene I have been involved in since I was 14. Fuck the tards mate, it's all about the metal!!

Offline Oiseau

  • WF Lieutenant
  • ***
  • Posts: 192
  • Reputation: 5
  • Gender: Female
    • View Profile
Re: Jez's Manifesto
« Reply #2 on: June 29, 2010, 11:19:14 AM »
Why not just ignore them, every 'contribution.' It only takes one person getting their knickers in a twist to motivate them to keep posting rubbish. If they don't get a single response to any thing they post, chances are they'll give it up. Time and time again, to every rubbish post, there'll be 5 reaction posts, and by the second one, noone gives a shit. It's the carrying on that is making people lose interest. It's easy to ignore one troll post but when there are 5 reactions, 4 of which saying 'Yeah, what he said, so there!' it's just stupid. This site is a fantastic tool for the bands to get their stuff out there, and promote shows and the bits and pieces they're doing. It's weak to let the whole thing get derailed by 3 people who struggle to construct a decent sentence, because it will be the musicians who will miss out on this forum to show their stuff off.
« Last Edit: June 29, 2010, 11:22:44 AM by Oiseau »
I ate one anchovy. And that is why i did not eat two anchovies.

Offline chancellorisgod

  • Global Moderator
  • WF Colonel
  • *****
  • Posts: 1198
  • Reputation: -2
  • Gender: Male
    • View Profile
    • Original Sin Photography
Re: Jez's Manifesto
« Reply #3 on: June 29, 2010, 11:50:25 AM »
Totally agree with you there mate - its a shame that a select few fuckwits think its funny to come on and post retarded gibberish under the guise of comedy. I remember when I used to come on here years ago and there'd be a new post every coupla minutes. Nowadays I come on and check the recent posts and half the time no-one has posted in hours... Crying shame that we've lost so many good members because people can't find something better to do with their time.

Offline goat

  • WF Colonel
  • *****
  • Posts: 905
  • Reputation: 2
  • Gender: Male
    • View Profile
Re: Jez's Manifesto
« Reply #4 on: June 29, 2010, 11:58:02 AM »
Well put Jez.
Why not start up a "section" for "invites only" That would work well. Keep it in the faimly so to speak.
Let the little bitches claw each other eyes out behind closed doors.

Better still, make a jail section and banish them to it till they learn.

Offline dparker

  • WF Colonel
  • *****
  • Posts: 3252
  • Reputation: -224
  • Gender: Male
    • View Profile
Re: Jez's Manifesto
« Reply #5 on: June 29, 2010, 02:41:47 PM »
I don't know how practical it would be for Daz to implement, but I used to post on the Ultimatemetal forums, and they had a feature where you could personally block other users, so you don't see their posts show up. Such a feature would be of great help here I think, because enough fucking around, and soon enough these people would be free to spew out as much trash as they want, and no-one would have to notice if they chose not to.

I can totally understand and sympathise with the choices of Mark D, Grim, and whoever to leave this forum. I admit (and some of you are quite aware) that I myself used to talk a lot of shit on here, but I'd like to think that I grew up. Still, as hard as it may be, it's best to just ignore the so-called "trolls", or whatever they like to be called. Don't even bother replying to them or trying to argue constructively. Leave it to them to either grow a pair, or get bored and give up.

No offense intended, but simply leaving the forum because you're discouraged by a bunch of immature fuckwits, in itself is somewhat immature. Take a stand by just brushing it all aside, and continuing to do as you do. As obvious as it seems, you're giving them exactly the reaction they want.
I must slumber, per se.

Offline Ingasm

  • WF Colonel
  • *****
  • Posts: 2225
  • Reputation: -10
  • Gender: Male
  • Who's that fluffy bundle of love?
    • View Profile
Re: Jez's Manifesto
« Reply #6 on: June 29, 2010, 02:51:46 PM »
An option to self moderate by ignoring or shitlisting blithering idiots like cheersvb and sedaal would be pretty welcome and easy to implement. Also, an instant ban on reciting 4chan memes would improve this board by at least 50 percent alone.

Keep in mind if you stop posting reviews there will be literally nothing of worth on offer here aside from gig dates, for-sales, cheap viagra and the annoyingly rare pearls of wisdom regarding equipment and recording.

Fuck it, I'm on here nearly every day and I rarely post because I agree with the majority of what everyone said, and I see no point in wasting my time.




Offline Funeral Tormentor

  • WF Lieutenant
  • ***
  • Posts: 200
  • Reputation: 6
  • Gender: Male
  • disharmonious misanthropy
    • View Profile
Re: Jez's Manifesto
« Reply #7 on: June 29, 2010, 03:48:12 PM »
too long... couldnt be fuckd reading it...
www.myspace.com/lordhavoc666 - Dark Misanthropy - Raw Depressive Black Metal

Offline dparker

  • WF Colonel
  • *****
  • Posts: 3252
  • Reputation: -224
  • Gender: Male
    • View Profile
Re: Jez's Manifesto
« Reply #8 on: June 29, 2010, 03:54:35 PM »
An option to self moderate by ignoring or shitlisting blithering idiots like cheersvb and sedaal would be pretty welcome and easy to implement. Also, an instant ban on reciting 4chan memes would improve this board by at least 50 percent alone.

Yeah, that's what I was getting at... with the bulletin board software Ultimatemetal used, they had a feature/plugin where you could essentially shitlist other users. What you'd get when someone on that shitlist posts in a thread, from your perspective, is a very small, obscured space where a post would go, with nothing but their name. Of course, if someone quotes what was posted by someone on your shitlist, then you would see that text in the quote, but ideally that wouldn't happen, because no-one would be reading the bullshit post in the first place.

Quite a long time ago, someone who isn't me used to frequent a board known colloquially as the "Rogue Science" forum. I have never seen a forum better moderated than that place... there was practically zero off-topic or redundant posts (and the moderators were spelling/grammar Nazis too), making the forum a resource worth something. Of course, they had one sub-forum for venting humour and banter, but otherwise, it was purely professional. Almost utopia!
I must slumber, per se.

Offline Ingasm

  • WF Colonel
  • *****
  • Posts: 2225
  • Reputation: -10
  • Gender: Male
  • Who's that fluffy bundle of love?
    • View Profile
Re: Jez's Manifesto
« Reply #9 on: June 29, 2010, 04:16:17 PM »
Roguesci was very cool, but pretty severely moderated. Idiots were banned on sight... Probably a little OTT for this place, but there's no moderation whatsoever here aside from spam removal. Mods are too lenient and it's taken advantage of, resulting in this torrent of idiots and a gradual decrease in the board's quality.

Offline ironguardian

  • Global Moderator
  • WF Colonel
  • *****
  • Posts: 1561
  • Reputation: -666
  • Gender: Male
  • The problem with Perth metal.
    • View Profile
    • Iron Guardian Industries
Re: Jez's Manifesto
« Reply #10 on: June 29, 2010, 04:29:28 PM »
Mods are too lenient

As far as I know only TnT and BlackEarth are moderators. One or two more wouldn't go astray.

Offline schist

  • Oinahman
  • Global Moderator
  • WF Colonel
  • *****
  • Posts: 821
  • Reputation: -90
  • Gender: Male
    • View Profile
Re: Jez's Manifesto
« Reply #11 on: June 29, 2010, 04:37:45 PM »
Quite a long time ago, someone who isn't me used to frequent a board known colloquially as the "Rogue Science" forum. I have never seen a forum better moderated than that place... there was practically zero off-topic or redundant posts (and the moderators were spelling/grammar Nazis too), making the forum a resource worth something. Of course, they had one sub-forum for venting humour and banter, but otherwise, it was purely professional. Almost utopia!

Whoa whoa whoa ... so if the same rules were to be applied here, does that mean we have to kick Whammy out?  :'(

Offline Stormrider

  • Global Moderator
  • WF Colonel
  • *****
  • Posts: 1922
  • Reputation: 29
  • Gender: Male
  • \m/ \m/
    • View Profile
    • Riot Squad
Re: Jez's Manifesto
« Reply #12 on: June 29, 2010, 04:50:12 PM »
Mods are too lenient

As far as I know only TnT and BlackEarth are moderators. One or two more wouldn't go astray.

Yeh but old Qwaid hasn't flexed his muscle on here for years...barely posts anymore either

RIOT SQUAD - The New Force in THRASH
https://www.facebook.com/Riot.Squad.aus

Offline goat

  • WF Colonel
  • *****
  • Posts: 905
  • Reputation: 2
  • Gender: Male
    • View Profile
Re: Jez's Manifesto
« Reply #13 on: June 29, 2010, 05:08:24 PM »
aaaaargh, Anarchy!

Offline nihilist

  • WF Colonel
  • *****
  • Posts: 7804
  • Reputation: 38
  • Gender: Male
  • WHORE: THE OTHER WHITE MEAT.
    • View Profile
Re: Jez's Manifesto
« Reply #14 on: June 29, 2010, 05:10:40 PM »
I've been annoying the shit out of you people for years, where's my love?
My hands are choking, my knife is broken.
An orgasm is what I need.
Your blood is spilling, the sight is thrilling.
To cum I need to see you bleed.

Offline Stormrider

  • Global Moderator
  • WF Colonel
  • *****
  • Posts: 1922
  • Reputation: 29
  • Gender: Male
  • \m/ \m/
    • View Profile
    • Riot Squad
Re: Jez's Manifesto
« Reply #15 on: June 29, 2010, 05:12:20 PM »
I've been annoying the shit out of you people for years, where's my love?

8===D~~~

Better ?

RIOT SQUAD - The New Force in THRASH
https://www.facebook.com/Riot.Squad.aus

Offline goat

  • WF Colonel
  • *****
  • Posts: 905
  • Reputation: 2
  • Gender: Male
    • View Profile
Re: Jez's Manifesto
« Reply #16 on: June 29, 2010, 05:14:02 PM »
I've been annoying the shit out of you people for years, where's my love?

8===D~~~

Better ?

 :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: fuck this joint has been cracking me up for days. Keep it cumin. i mean coming.

Offline nihilist

  • WF Colonel
  • *****
  • Posts: 7804
  • Reputation: 38
  • Gender: Male
  • WHORE: THE OTHER WHITE MEAT.
    • View Profile
Re: Jez's Manifesto
« Reply #17 on: June 29, 2010, 05:20:01 PM »
I NEED AN ADULT.
My hands are choking, my knife is broken.
An orgasm is what I need.
Your blood is spilling, the sight is thrilling.
To cum I need to see you bleed.

Offline goat

  • WF Colonel
  • *****
  • Posts: 905
  • Reputation: 2
  • Gender: Male
    • View Profile
Re: Jez's Manifesto
« Reply #18 on: June 29, 2010, 05:22:57 PM »
I NEED AN ADULT.

Sorry mate, ive been here too much today.
I think im an adult still at least. i need a day or so.

Offline chancellorisgod

  • Global Moderator
  • WF Colonel
  • *****
  • Posts: 1198
  • Reputation: -2
  • Gender: Male
    • View Profile
    • Original Sin Photography
Re: Jez's Manifesto
« Reply #19 on: June 29, 2010, 05:26:53 PM »
I check in here about once an hour (spend most of my day on the web) - maybe Daz would like some help with the moderation. Will send him a PM....

Offline nihilist

  • WF Colonel
  • *****
  • Posts: 7804
  • Reputation: 38
  • Gender: Male
  • WHORE: THE OTHER WHITE MEAT.
    • View Profile
Re: Jez's Manifesto
« Reply #20 on: June 29, 2010, 05:32:59 PM »
I'd volunteer to moderate but my theory on moderation is to abuse someone until they leave.
My hands are choking, my knife is broken.
An orgasm is what I need.
Your blood is spilling, the sight is thrilling.
To cum I need to see you bleed.

Offline Ingasm

  • WF Colonel
  • *****
  • Posts: 2225
  • Reputation: -10
  • Gender: Male
  • Who's that fluffy bundle of love?
    • View Profile
Re: Jez's Manifesto
« Reply #21 on: June 29, 2010, 06:22:21 PM »
Fine in practice, but in all honesty you're a bit shit at it these days.

See, you're pretty much part of the furniture around here and nobody really notices you.

Pull out the stops, man, before you fade into obscurity.

Offline Funeral Tormentor

  • WF Lieutenant
  • ***
  • Posts: 200
  • Reputation: 6
  • Gender: Male
  • disharmonious misanthropy
    • View Profile
Re: Jez's Manifesto
« Reply #22 on: June 29, 2010, 06:57:18 PM »
I'd volunteer to moderate but my theory on moderation is to abuse someone until they leave.

no thats a troll.... you are a troll...
just troll harder...
www.myspace.com/lordhavoc666 - Dark Misanthropy - Raw Depressive Black Metal

Offline chancellorisgod

  • Global Moderator
  • WF Colonel
  • *****
  • Posts: 1198
  • Reputation: -2
  • Gender: Male
    • View Profile
    • Original Sin Photography
Re: Jez's Manifesto
« Reply #23 on: June 29, 2010, 06:58:38 PM »
Fine in practice, but in all honesty you're a bit shit at it these days.

See, you're pretty much part of the furniture around here and nobody really notices you.

Pull out the stops, man, before you fade into obscurity.

+1 - I remember the days when you used to get me all riled up, now I just think "oh that nihilist, he so CRAZEH"

Offline goat

  • WF Colonel
  • *****
  • Posts: 905
  • Reputation: 2
  • Gender: Male
    • View Profile
Re: Jez's Manifesto
« Reply #24 on: June 29, 2010, 07:10:50 PM »
Nihilist puts things in perspective.

and funny as fuck as far as im concerned.


postitves and negatives or its boring.