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General => General discussion => Topic started by: Mago_Haydz on June 26, 2007, 04:23:48 PM
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Im not the biggest wrestling fan, but even I found this a bit shocking.
http://www.news.com.au/story/0,23599,21969556-2,00.html (http://www.news.com.au/story/0,23599,21969556-2,00.html)
REPORTS say Chris Benoit, one of TV wrestling's leading personalities, and his family have been found dead in their home.
The bodies of Benoit, his wife Nancy, and their young son were found after the wrestler missed an engagement to attend to a "family crisis", according to TMZ.com.
Police are investigating the scene.
The official WWE website reported the deaths and said the upcoming episode of Raw would serve as a tribute to Benoit.
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W T F. If this is real is fucked up but how the hell would you know with WWE these days? If it is real it kind of makes McMahons mock-death look incredibly tasteless.
Benoit is/was a champion. I loved him. If this is real it's pretty fucked up (especially if it's murder/suicide)
:'(
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I read all the stories on every link I could find....it seems VERY genuine. Sad shit.
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W T F. If this is real is fucked up but how the hell would you know with WWE these days? If it is real it kind of makes McMahons mock-death look incredibly tasteless.
Benoit is/was a champion. I loved him. If this is real it's pretty fucked up (especially if it's murder/suicide crap)
The people who actually think Vince died well more fool them, there is a big difference when it's real and when it's storyline ie when Eddie Guerrero died the wrestlers were shocked and in tears you could tell it wasn't part of the show, I'd imagine it will be for Chris Benoit 'The Rabid Wolverine' Benoit was one of the legends one of the wrestlers who didn't mind taking it that extra step further into the pain threshhold to put on a cranken show, fucken spewing to hear this...
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This is completely fucked. I ordered the Vengence PPV where Benoit was supposed to take on CM Punk for the vacated ECW title. Apparently Benoit was not able to make it for family reasons and was subbed by Johnny Nitro (who won the title which is also completly fucked but that's another story). Makes me wonder if Benoit actually intended this to happen? I know that sounds a little to much like a conspiracy, but who knows at this stage. All I know is that the wrestling world has lost another great wrestler and in my opinion the greatest technical wrestler that ever lived.
RIP Chris Benoit and I wish you were still here to wow us with your genius in ring performances :'( :'(
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They did a Tribute on the latest RAW.
Vince was there and talked about Chris. I bet that pissed them off..now they need a new storyline for the next 6 months since its confirmed that Vince isnt "dead"
RIP Chris and Family.
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PWTorch.com confirms this shocking story.
In tragic news out of Atlanta, Ga., Chris Benoit, his wife Nancy, and their son Daniel were all found dead in their homes today.
WWE Raw will be a tribute to Benoit. All previous plans for Raw have been scraped.
Daniel was their only child together. He was about seven years old. Says one friend: "Chris and Nancy were known to have a volatile relationship, but their son was the saving grace for both of them."
Benoit has another son from his previous marriage who is in Canada at this time.
Another story on http://wcbstv.com/entertainment/local_story_176204855.html (http://wcbstv.com/entertainment/local_story_176204855.html)
CBS/AP) FAYETTEVILLE, Ga WWE superstar Chris Benoit, his wife and son were found dead Monday and police said they were investigating the deaths as a homicide.
Lt. Tommy Pope of the Fayette County Sheriff's Department said the three were found at their home about 2:30 p.m., but refused to release details.
Pope said results of autopsies on Benoit, his wife Nancy, and 7-year-old son Daniel were expected Tuesday.
Benoit, 40, was a former world heavyweight champion, Intercontinental champion and held several tag-team titles over his career.
"WWE extends its sincerest thoughts and prayers to the Benoit family's relatives and loved ones in this time of tragedy," the federation said in a statement on its Web site.
Benoit was scheduled to perform at the "Vengeance" pay-per-view event Sunday night in Houston, but was replaced at the last minute because of what announcer Jim Ross called "personal reasons."
Benoit, a Canadian native, maintained a home in metro Atlanta from the time he wrestled for the defunct World Championship Wrestling.
The WWE canceled its live "Monday Night RAW" card in Corpus Christi, Texas, and USA Network aired a three-hour tribute to Benoit in place of the scheduled wrestling telecast.
Vince was there and talked about Chris. I bet that pissed them off..now they need a new storyline for the next 6 months since its confirmed that Vince isnt "dead"
Well to begin with, you'd have to be pretty stupid not to work out that the whole "Vince is dead" thing is a storyline and since Chris Benoit and his family, which includes former ECW valet Woman (used to manage The Sandman), and WWE Hall of Famer "Sensational" Sherri Martel have died since this Vince dead angle has started I think it's good that he reveals that he isn't dead and pays respect to the actual deceased.
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Vince was there and talked about Chris. I bet that pissed them off..now they need a new storyline for the next 6 months since its confirmed that Vince isnt "dead"
Well to begin with, you'd have to be pretty stupid not to work out that the whole "Vince is dead" thing is a storyline and since Chris Benoit and his family, which includes former ECW valet Woman (used to manage The Sandman), and WWE Hall of Famer "Sensational" Sherri Martel have died since this Vince dead angle has started I think it's good that he reveals that he isn't dead and pays respect to the actual deceased.
Yeah..but unfortunatly there are alot of wrestling fans that believed the Vince is dead story..which makes me laugh...it was so obviously storyline it wasnt funny. It is good that he paid his respects. Im not a huge Wrestling fan, and havn't watched it in years...but its been in the headlines abit l8ly.
I just hope they dont milk it like they did Eddies death.....
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He won me $30 on the royal rumble when he wrestled something like 65mins straight. Now if that isn't the mark of a true athlete at the top of his game, then nothing is.
A truely wonderful entertainer. Even though I don't watch wrestling much anymore, I still regard him as one of my consistant favourites. Terrible news :(
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I just hope they dont milk it like they did Eddies death.....
Come on man, it's WWE. Of course they will and they will try to make money off his death too. God damn makes me wonder why I watch this wrestling crap sometimes. The McMahon family have no fucking compassion. At least I still have a lot of old school wrestling footage, which reminds me, I might watch the end of Wrestlemania 20. You remember that celebration at the end with Benoit and Eddie?? That has soooo much more meaning to it now. Both men at the peak of the careers not knowing what is going to happen next. Plus that fantastic match they had together at the original One Night Stand. Looks like I know what I'm doing tonight.
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My money is on a double homicide / suicide. Whole families don't die for no reason.
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I just hope they dont milk it like they did Eddies death.....
Come on man, it's WWE. Of course they will and they will try to make money off his death too. God damn makes me wonder why I watch this wrestling crap sometimes. The McMahon family have no fucking compassion. At least I still have a lot of old school wrestling footage, which reminds me, I might watch the end of Wrestlemania 20. You remember that celebration at the end with Benoit and Eddie?? That has soooo much more meaning to it now. Both men at the peak of the careers not knowing what is going to happen next. Plus that fantastic match they had together at the original One Night Stand. Looks like I know what I'm doing tonight.
(http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d64/micklahem/chireddie.jpg)
I believe this is the pic you mean, out of all the pics i've sold on e-bay this one sells the most...
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Fuck yeah, and it's gonna be worth a lot more now!
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Fuck yeah, and it's gonna be worth a lot more now!
nah I just sell preprints (copies) for $10 each on e-bay, i'll bring you one for free next time there's a gig we'll both be at...I have heaps of Eddie & Chris.
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I just hope they dont milk it like they did Eddies death.....
At least I still have a lot of old school wrestling footage, which reminds me, I might watch the end of Wrestlemania 20.
Wretlemania 20...old school? I might go watch the only Wrestlemania I have.....Hulk vs Andre. Wrestlemania 3. Now THATS old school!
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I just hope they dont milk it like they did Eddies death.....
At least I still have a lot of old school wrestling footage, which reminds me, I might watch the end of Wrestlemania 20.
Wretlemania 20...old school? I might go watch the only Wrestlemania I have.....Hulk vs Andre. Wrestlemania 3. Now THATS old school!
gee my son would love that, he's a huge Hulk and Andre fan...
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Yeah I know. I wasn't refering to Wrestlemania 20 as old school, just that I had old school footage, like early ECW, all Manias, all Rumbles, some early WCW. I was stating that Wrestlemania 20 was relevent to the whole Benoit incident.
Fuck yeah, and it's gonna be worth a lot more now!
nah I just sell preprints (copies) for $10 each on e-bay, i'll bring you one for free next time there's a gig we'll both be at...I have heaps of Eddie & Chris.
Yeah please do. If you're coming to The Alchemont launch, bring me one then. Cheers.
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I just hope they dont milk it like they did Eddies death.....
At least I still have a lot of old school wrestling footage, which reminds me, I might watch the end of Wrestlemania 20.
Wretlemania 20...old school? I might go watch the only Wrestlemania I have.....Hulk vs Andre. Wrestlemania 3. Now THATS old school!
gee my son would love that, he's a huge Hulk and Andre fan...
I'll see if I can dig it up, and its yours if you want it. I did clean a whole heap of videos out to make way for my extensive DVD collection, but Im pretty sure I wouldnt have thrown that one out. Will let you know.
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I just hope they dont milk it like they did Eddies death.....
At least I still have a lot of old school wrestling footage, which reminds me, I might watch the end of Wrestlemania 20.
Wretlemania 20...old school? I might go watch the only Wrestlemania I have.....Hulk vs Andre. Wrestlemania 3. Now THATS old school!
gee my son would love that, he's a huge Hulk and Andre fan...
I'll see if I can dig it up, and its yours if you want it. I did clean a whole heap of videos out to make way for my extensive DVD collection, but Im pretty sure I wouldnt have thrown that one out. Will let you know.
cheers ;D
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Yeah I know. I wasn't refering to Wrestlemania 20 as old school, just that I had old school footage, like early ECW, all Manias, all Rumbles, some early WCW. I was stating that Wrestlemania 20 was relevent to the whole Benoit incident.
Fuck yeah, and it's gonna be worth a lot more now!
nah I just sell preprints (copies) for $10 each on e-bay, i'll bring you one for free next time there's a gig we'll both be at...I have heaps of Eddie & Chris.
Yeah please do. If you're coming to The Alchemont launch, bring me one then. Cheers.
nah I wont be able to make that gig, but you can pm me your address and i'll post it with the others on Wednesday.
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i grew up watching chris benoit in wcw when i was a kid. he was always someone that i insisted in watching no matter what because to me, he opitimises what wrestling is. he might not do the best promos, but once he stepped into the ring, you knew he was going to give everything he had. watching the original benoit vs booker t best of seven matches were a massive highlight during my childhood.
it is a very sad day, no matter how this whole thing pans out, as its been ruled as a double murder/suicide. ill remember chris for the joy he gave me while watching him do what he did best.
diamonds are forever, and so are the horsemen!
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The latest report from the AP includes information told to the FOX affiliate in Atlanta that investigators believe Chris Benoit killed his wife, Nancy, and son, Daniel, sometime over the weekend before returning home and killing himself on Monday.
The report continues that concerned neighbors alerted police to the Benoit residence, where the bodies were found in three separate rooms. The evidence from the crime scene still needs to be analyzed, and official cause of deaths will not be known until Tuesday, at the earliest. Investigators are officially investigating the deaths as a homicide and possible murder-suicide.
just found this on the net, I guess a lot of rumors will be flying around for a few days till we know the truth but this looks to be true.
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This is incomprehensible.. fucked.
He wouldn't strike me as someone capable of such an atrocious crime, for decades he proved time and time again that he had a heart of gold, much like eddie Guererro.
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Have to wait for the coroners report.
This is incomprehensible.. fucked.
He wouldn't strike me as someone capable of such an atrocious crime, for decades he proved time and time again that he had a heart of gold, much like eddie Guererro.
Nevertheless, he was an actor playing a character, so you can't really make an assumption of his personality based on what you see in the ring or during publicity events. I'd imagine very few people know what the real Chris Benoit is like. But, if he was a perfect gentlemen and philanthropist, it's always the ones you least expect, isn't it...
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...And the plot thickens. I did notice he looked a little depressed on TV recently and it's so unlike him to skip a match for any circumstances. He lost his first marrage cause he was so dedicated to his job. When he bailed on the ECW title match I knew something weird was up.
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...And the plot thickens. I did notice he looked a little depressed on TV recently and it's so unlike him to skip a match for any circumstances. He lost his first marrage cause he was so dedicated to his job. When he bailed on the ECW title match I knew something weird was up.
Yeah, but to kill your own SON... Your own flesh and blood :( Thats fucked up.
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Have to wait for the coroners report.
This is incomprehensible.. fucked.
He wouldn't strike me as someone capable of such an atrocious crime, for decades he proved time and time again that he had a heart of gold, much like Eddie Guerrero.
Nevertheless, he was an actor playing a character, so you can't really make an assumption of his personality based on what you see in the ring or during publicity events. I'd imagine very few people know what the real Chris Benoit is like. But, if he was a perfect gentlemen and philanthropist, it's always the ones you least expect, isn't it...
I've watched doco's on Chris and Eddie and that's where you should get your opinions from not the wrestling itself, for example Eddie almost always played the bad guy but in real life he was a damn good bloke, Benoit also seemed to be a good dude, Eddie and Benoit new each other as children so did Rey.
I remember a wrestler (forgot his fucken name) was asked in an interview "who has made an impression on you since starting" and he replied "Christian and Undertaker" apparently Christian is an absolutely awesome guy who doesn't mind helping you out and Undertaker always takes time to show the new guys the ropes. Edge is supposed to be pretty cool also and I can't stand that cunt (which means he's doing a good job as playing the bad guy)
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I heard somewhere that it was actually Ken Shamrock that showed Undertaker the ropes....
(http://slam.canoe.ca/SlamWrestlingGalleryImages/99apr23_shamrock_ut.jpg)
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Doing the rounds on some other forums...
"My second cousin is an officer with GBI (Georgia Bureau of Investigations) and what he's heard in his circle is that Chirs Benoit's wife killed their son Daniel, called Chris and told him to rush home because of an emergency which is why he missed last Sunday's Vengeance PPV. Upon arriving home Benoit killed his wife in a rage for the death of his son and then killed himself Monday morning. His wife's body was found in the master bedroom, strangled with the cord from an alarm clock. The son's body was found in his room appearantly suffocated with a garbage bag. Chris then wrote a suicide note explaining what had happened, apologized to his family, his other children (from a seperate relationship), and his fans. He the fasioned a slip-knot noose from from rope taken from the garage and hung himself from the ballaster in the foyer of his suburban Atlanta home."
Unsubstantiated so far, but we'll have to see.
Doesn't seem like such a bad guy, if this is the case. :angel:
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I heard somewhere that it was actually Ken Shamrock that showed Undertaker the ropes....
(http://slam.canoe.ca/SlamWrestlingGalleryImages/99apr23_shamrock_ut.jpg)
not sure, I thought Undertaker would have been wrestling years before Shamrock started but you could be right.
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this is off the WWE web page
According to lead investigator Lt. Tommy Pope, of the Fayette County Sheriffs Department, in Fayetteville, Ga., the deaths of WWE Superstar Chris Benoit, wife Nancy and son Daniel were the result of a double murder-suicide, WWE.com has learned.
Benoit failed to appear both at Saturdays live event in Beaumont, Tx., and WWEs Vengeance: Night of Champions in Houston Sunday night, after informing WWE of a family emergency. Several curious text messages sent by Benoit early Sunday morning prompted concerned friends to alert Richard Hering, VP of Government Relations for WWE, Inc. Hering, in turn, spoke with Fayette County sheriffs Monday, and requested that they respond to the Benoit residence to check on him and his family.
Authorities representing the Sheriffs Department initially had a difficult time entering Benoits new Fayetteville home Monday afternoon, which had been guarded by two large German Shepherds roaming freely around the property. Once authorities entered the residence, they quickly located the bodies of Benoit, Nancy and Daniel. WWE was notified of the discovery at approximately 4 p.m.
At 10 p.m. Monday night, Lt. Pope held a press conference in conjunction with Scott Ballard, the district attorney for Fayette County. The press conference officially ruled authorities findings as a double murder-suicide from within the home.
WAGA, a FOX-owned and operated television station in Atlanta, reported that investigators believe Benoit killed his wife and 7-year-old son over the weekend, then himself on Monday.
The three bodies have been received by the Georgia Bureau of Investigations crime lab, in Decatur, Ga., where autopsies will be performed Tuesday morning. Toxicology reports will not become available for at least two weeks.
WWE.com has further information relating to both the investigation and the cause of death, but the Fayette County Sheriffs Department has requested that WWE.com not release any additional details at this time.
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The thing is we may never know the true motif behind this strange occurance. All I know is I can't stop thinking about what could have happened. Did Chris have a nervous breakdown and severe depression and suddenly kill his wife and son and then himself? Was his wife insane and kill her son, call up Chris, to which he came over killed his wife then himself? Did his wife threaten to divorce him and take full custody of his child which sent Chris over the edge since it had happened to him before?
Quite frankly it doesn't even matter to me anymore, because 3 people are dead in a horrible and quite frankly, bizzare and freaky occurance which will shake up the world of wrestling and never be forgotten.
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Fuck, if what Inge posted is true, then I truly feel for the guy, and I must say, I would have a hard time in not doing the same thing. However, if it is the other, more wide spread theory that he killed her and his son, then himself....it makes me sick to even think anyone could do that, especially to a 7yo boy, ESPECIALLY your own son. I hate myself for smacking my boys when they are naughty - and I dont even smack them hard enough for it to even hurt. I couldnt even bare to actually hurt them, let alone kill them!
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Roid rage perhaps?
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Woah.. that's messed up :o
Especially if murder-suicide is the case, that's awful! If he was depressed/angry there's no excuse for killing your own wife and son who I'm sure he loved. This is just too weird
RIP :(
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Fuck, if what Inge posted is true, then I truly feel for the guy, and I must say, I would have a hard time in not doing the same thing. However, if it is the other, more wide spread theory that he killed her and his son, then himself....it makes me sick to even think anyone could do that, especially to a 7yo boy, ESPECIALLY your own son. I hate myself for smacking my boys when they are naughty - and I don't even smack them hard enough for it to even hurt. I couldn't even bare to actually hurt them, let alone kill them!
yeah well I suddenly have little respect for him despite the circumstances that led up to it, killing a child is just weak as piss no matter how much your hurting.
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If it is true and he killed both of them and then killed himself.....He has lost my respect.
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And people thought the Ben Cousins thing was a 'massive sporting controversy'...kinda pales in comparison to this...
Sooooo fucked up.
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I heard somewhere that it was actually Ken Shamrock that showed Undertaker the ropes....
(http://slam.canoe.ca/SlamWrestlingGalleryImages/99apr23_shamrock_ut.jpg)
not sure, I thought Undertaker would have been wrestling years before Shamrock started but you could be right.
I can't remember who told me, but I heard that the Undertaker was actually really sick in the head...?
I have a strange feeling I read it in Jenna Jameson's autobio.
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I don't give a fuck what the end story turns out to be.
To me, BENOIT will always be a legend. The amount of entertainment and effort he gave in the ring will always be remembered by me.
From ECW to WCW then to WWE. He always put 100% into every match he was in.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4WohOOhCvpE (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4WohOOhCvpE)(The only match i could find on youtube of BENOIT/REGAL. 2 men who had the BEST matches everytime they got into the ring.)
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"Benoit strangled wife, smothered son
Wrestling superstar Chris Benoit strangled his wife, smothered his son and then hanged himself in his weight room, according to police.
Police investigators announced the grisly findings at a press conference this morning (AEST).
"Mr Benoit had sometime, possibly Friday, murdered his wife by asphyxiation. Sometime shortly after that, the same for his son Daniel and sometime later ... committed suicide by hanging himself in the basement area," officials said in a statement from the Fayetteville Sheriff's Department.
The bodies of the 40-year-old wrestler, his wife, Nancy Benoit, 43, and their seven-year-old son, Daniel, were found in three separate rooms at their Atlanta home on Monday.
Mrs Benoit was bound at the wrists and feet, with a towel wrapped around her body and blood underneath her head, according to officials.
A Bible was reportedly found near each one of the bodies.
World Wrestling Entertainment staff asked police to check on Benoit after they were alerted to a series of "curious" text messages he had sent to friends, reportedly during Sunday's Vengeance TV wrestling program.
There has been speculation he was watching the program with his son, who may have been alive at the time.
However, police say they believe Benoit died on Saturday. Authorities understand he used a cord from one of his workout machines as a makeshift noose.
Toxicology tests will show whether steroids or prescription drugs, both found inside the Benoit home, could have been a factor in the deaths. Steroid abuse has been linked to angry outbursts known as "roid rage."
As the investigation continues, Benoit's history of domestic abuse has been brought into the spotlight.
Mrs Benoit had filed for divorce and a restraining order against her husband in 2003, telling a judge she was "intimidated by threats of violence."
In the papers, Nancy claimed that Benoit, "lost his temper and threatened to strike the petitioner and cause extensive damage to the home and personal belongings of the parties, including furniture."
She also said she was "in reasonable fear for petitioner's own safety and that of the minor child."
Three months later, she withdrew the divorce papers and a judge cancelled the proceedings.
Some friends of Benoit, however, are unable to accept that would harm his family.
"He was very happy with his wife and he loved his son Daniel," Ross Hart, a friend of Benoit and member of the Hart wrestling family, told the Edmonton Journal.
"This would be very uncharacteristic of Chris to do anything self-destructive. I find it very hard to believe that he would end his life or his family's."
This doesn't look good at all :o :(
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Even though I feel terribly sorry for what happened to his wife and son, I also feel for all the kids who watch WWE on every saturday and sunday morning and looked up to Benoit as a great wrestler. From when I've seen over the years hes never really been portrayed as a "goodie or a badie" but just a rough as guts wrestler and more often than not, the underdog.
Now that this news has been reported, it'd be hard for the kids to swallow that their favourite wrestler was a drug-abuser who beat up and intimidated his wife, then killed his family before suiciding :(
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Even though I feel terribly sorry for what happened to his wife and son, I also feel for all the kids who watch WWE on every saturday and sunday morning and looked up to Benoit as a great wrestler. From when I've seen over the years hes never really been portrayed as a "goodie or a badie" but just a rough as guts wrestler and more often than not, the underdog.
Now that this news has been reported, it'd be hard for the kids to swallow that their favourite wrestler was a drug-abuser who beat up and intimidated his wife, then killed his family before suiciding :(
yeah I told my son last night and it was kind of a weird feeling telling him what happened.
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You really probably could have explained it differently or sugarcoated it, you didn't tell him how they all died did you?
:o
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You really probably could have explained it differently or sugarcoated it, you didn't tell him how they all died did you?
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no point lying to the boy....he's gunna find out one way or the other. Better to come from his dad than someone at school or on TV or whatever.
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You really probably could have explained it differently or sugarcoated it, you didn't tell him how they all died did you?
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no point lying to the boy....he's gunna find out one way or the other. Better to come from his dad than someone at school or on TV or whatever.
exactly, and i'm a firm believer in showing the world for what it is the good the bad and then these types of situations, no point in sugar coating it...my son is nearly 10 though so all the year fours are already talking about it.
It was just weird because Benoit is one of our favourite wrestlers and he committed murder and then suicide, not quit or retired like the norm.
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Oh yeah that's more or less what I mean't, just to say that they all died and that he went 'crazy' or something.
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Heard on the news just before that they did find steroids in his house.
Also, what's with the bibles?
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Heard on the news just before that they did find steroids in his house.
Also, what's with the bibles?
HBK, Rey, Eddie, Chris Benoit & a lot more wrestlers are into religion...but it tells me that he was aware of what was happening if he thought to place bibles next to them all.
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Granted, but why go to the trouble? It's all a bit odd.
Hmm, just read other sources that say they were prescription steroids.
Media! :ranting:
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Heard on the news just before that they did find steroids in his house.
Also, what's with the bibles?
HBK, Rey, Eddie, Chris Benoit & a lot more wrestlers are into religion...but it tells me that he was aware of what was happening if he thought to place bibles next to them all.
That's actually not true. And this is what is really crazy and a lil creepy. Benoit was actually an atheist.
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Here's my two cents on the situation. This is just a theory of mine from piecing all the information together, and that's it, a theory. I think the whole injecting the 7 year old kid with growth hormones that the news has been talking about is a bunch of crap invented by the media to make the whole situtaion look a lot worse then it really is, because we all know how much the media looks down on the wrestling industry and they can get away with it as well especially looking at how weak the business is at the moment. They are capitalising on that. Until the autopsy's are fully completed and forensics are done this is all speculation.
We know the history of Nancy and Chris's marrage and how it was in the pits around 2003/04 and I'm wondering if she had threatened to walk out on him again. We don't know if Chris was on the roid's as of yet but have we discussed other mind altering drugs yet, such as say, anti-depressants or pain medication? We all know how tough the WWE schedule is and it can drive people to depression and physically deterioriates your body. I am totally against the use of anti-depressants as I know how fucked up they can alter your perception on reality. All I know is that we cannot count out anything that might have made him see things irrationally. Killing your own flesh and blood, no matter if your a bad person or not, is not the way of a fully sane person and no one can disagree with me on that one. Coming from the people who worked with him in the wrestling business, they say he was the most level headed person.
Now if you mix mind-altering drugs with a stressful situation like divorce and maybe a threatened full-custody of a child that could have pushed him over the edge. Let me remind you I am not defending Chris in anyway for his actions nor stating that these are the facts I'm just speculating from what we have been given.
This however does not tarnish my views on him as a professional wrestler cause to me the Chris in the ring and the Chris we murdered his family and killed himself are two completly different aspects of him. In fact I watched his Royal Rumble match last night even after hearing these stories. I hope you people can feel the same way I do.
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3:30pm
A co-worker received a voice message from Benoit. The message from Benoit stated he missed his flight and over slept and would be late to the WWE Live Event. The co-worker called Benoit back, Benoit confirmed everything he said in his voice message and sounded tired and groggy. Benoit then stated, I love you. The co-worker stated that it was out of context.
3:42pm
The same co-worker was concerned with Benoits tone and demeanor and called Benoit for a second time. Benoit did not answer the call and the co-worker left a message stating just call me back.
3:44pm
Benoit called the co-worker back stating he didnt answer the call because he was on the phone with Delta changing his flight. Benoit stated he had a real stressful day due to Nancy and Daniel being sick with food poisoning. They discussed travel plans for the WWE Tour of Texas with Benoit still sounding groggy at this point according to the co-worker.
4:30pm
A co-worker who consistently travels with Benoit, called Benoit from outside Houston airport and Benoit answered. Benoit told the co-worker that Nancy was throwing up blood and that Daniel was also throwing up. Benoit thought they had food poisoning. Benoit stated he changed his flight and he would be arriving into Houston at 6:30pm. Benoit told the co-worker to drive onto the WWE event.
5:35pm
Benoit called WWE Talent Relations stating that his son was throwing up and that he and Nancy were in the hospital with their son, and that Benoit would be taking a later flight into Houston, landing late, but would make the WWE live event in Beaumont.
6:10pm
A representative of Talent Relations called Benoit. The representative from Talent Relations asked Benoit what time Benoit was getting into Beaumont. Benoit responded he was leaving Atlanta at 9:20pm Eastern time arriving into Houston at 9:24pm Central time. The representative from Talent Relations advised Benoit that it would be too late to make the WWE live event in Beaumont. Benoit apologized citing he had a family emergency. The representative from Talent Relations suggested to Benoit that instead of going to the WWE live event in Beaumont, Benoit should take the flight to Houston, rest up and be ready for the Vengeance Pay-Per-View event.
6:13pm
The representative from Talent Relations called Benoit to reconfirm the travel plans with no answer from Benoit. The representative from Talent Relations left a voice message to take the flight and rest up.
Sunday, June 24, 2007
Text messages sent to co-workers from Chris Benoit and Nancy Benoits cell phones:
Text Message 1
Sent to: Two Co-Workers (the same who had verbal correspondence with Benoit the day before)
From: Benoits cell phone
When: 6/24 at 3:53am from
Message: C, S. My physical address is 130 Green Meadow Lane. Fayetteville Georgia. 30215
Text Message 2
Sent to: Two Co-Workers (the same who had verbal correspondence with Benoit the day before)
From: Benoits cell phone
When: 6/24 at 3:53am
Message: The dogs are in the enclosed pool area. Garage side door is open
Text Message 3
Sent to: Two Co-Workers (the same who had verbal correspondence with Benoit the day before)
From: Nancy Benoits cell phone
When: 6/24 at 3:54am
Message: C, S. My physical address is 130 Green Meadow Lane. Fayetteville Georgia. 30215
Text Message 4
Sent to: Two Co-Workers (the same who had verbal correspondence with Benoit the day before)
From: Nancy Benoits cell phone
When: 6/24 at 3:55am
Message: C, S. My physical address is 130 Green Meadow Lane. Fayetteville Georgia. 30215
Text Message 5
Sent to: A Co-Worker who consistently traveled with Benoit
From: Nancy Benoits cell phone
When: 6/24 at 3:58am
Message: My address is 130 Green Meadow Lane. Fayetteville Georgia. 30215
WWE made several attempts to contact Benoit via phone and text messages, as well as, the local hospitals in the Atlanta area. As of 11:00 pm Sunday night there was no contact made with Benoit.
Monday, June 25, 2007
12:30pm
WWE was notified of text messages sent to the two co-workers.
12:45pm
WWE contacted the Fayetteville County Sheriffs office and requested them to go to Benoits
residence
4:00pm
WWE received a call from the Fayetteville County Sheriffs office, advising that they entered
the house of Benoit and found 3 deceased bodies (a male, a female and a child). The Fayetteville Sheriffs office has secured the house as a major crime scene and that the Fayetteville County Sheriffs Office had no further information
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Pretty tasteless joke man. :no: :no:
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Huh? What Joke? Did i miss something?
I still can't believe this shit.
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Far out, this is just getting worse and worse :err:
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Hahah... I won't post it here, but there is already pics on 4chan and such making fun of this event.
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Yeah the West Australian confirmed it today. Totally;y shocked. I'm, not a big fan of wrestling but i used to watch a couple vids at Smitty's house a year ago and got to know Benoit.
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Did you also watch 'Eine Scheie Familie' coz that's one of Smitty's classics... :err:
Fotze is never far away when theres a dig to be made in reference to Metal Odyssey 2006 :rofl:
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The guy had time to think about it in between killings -- time to come to grips with what he had done, and then continued on.
The guy deserves to fucking burn: if he hadn't killed himself, I am sure people would be calling for his blood.
I don't care what he was on, what sort of guy he was normally -- it is not an excuse.
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I think the point is he must have been mentally ill and/or under the influence of something to do this. No mentally sane person would kill thier own wife, let alone their 7 year old son. I'm not saying that this is an excuse for him but rather if he was mentally ill then its not like he, or anyone, could be thinking clearer and rationally about what he was doing.
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Normal people do extraordinary things when pushed to breaking point...
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I was thinking about this last night and came to the conclusion that, maybe in a dillusional kind of fucked up reality, something went down between him and his wife and he snapped and killed her. The time between killing his wife and his son, I am imagining the kinds of things going through his head like how his boy will grow up without a mother, and that he will surely go to jail, therefore what will happen to his son, where will he go, will he be fostered out etc etc. Maybe in his state of anguish he killed his son so he didnt have to go through that, then couldnt handle what he had done, so killed himself too. No excuse at all, but thats just the kind of things that would have been going through his mind. Purely my speculation of course.
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dont want to drag this out but I read the below today, I guess we'll here a whole heap of things like this until they piece it all together...makes it even worse the poor little bugger already had a disability...
WWE.com learned from an interview conducted Tuesday by Vancouvers News1130 that Chris Benoits son Daniel possibly suffered from Fragile X Syndrome, a genetically passed-on condition that results in impairments ranging from physical and learning disabilities, to more severe cognitive or intellectual disabilities.
In the interview with News1130, Pam Winthrope, whose own 12-year-old son suffers from Fragile X Syndrome, recounted how she and her husband talked to Benoit about the condition five years ago.
We talked to him because I was trying to set up a support group in B.C. and in Canada; we only have a couple of them, she said. My husband was struggling when we got diagnosed with our son, and Chris was struggling with his. They talked for a few minutes, and then he said he didnt want to be a public face for Fragile X. He just wanted to keep it really, really quiet.
A source close to Benoit recalls similar conversations with him, where he described his sons condition as a learning disability much like autism. This source quotes Benoit as saying Daniel wasnt capable of interacting with other children and was afraid of other children. Daniel also had a hard time making eye contact with everyone, which was another symptom of his disability. Benoit also claimed that his son was on medication for this condition.
Winthrope discussed the pressures facing parents of children diagnosed with Fragile X syndrome. During her interview with News1130, she stated that families can be torn apart by the disease because it's very difficult to find help and support. Winthrope added, "You as a parent have to go out there and find what's available and it's not easy -- they don't tell you."
A co-worker and long-time friend of the Benoits speculates that perhaps the pressures of home and Daniels illness had gotten to him, causing him to snap and take the lives of his wife and son before taking his own.
Is it possible that after Chris killed Nancy (for whatever reason), he felt Daniel wouldn't be able to get the care and attention he required as a special needs child (if that is indeed true) with no mother and a father either in jail or dead? Did he then decide that the only way he could protect and take care of his son was to take him to the next world and go with him? In his warped and twisted state, did he think this was the only way to shield his son from a difficult life of pain and hardship? It doesn't condone or justify a damn thing, but it's the best reason I can think of. I'm trying to put together some semblance of logic for his actions, but it's an impossible task trying to explain this.
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Just read this on NY Daily News
" Pro wrestler Chris Benoit apparently was pumping human-growth hormone into his 7-year-old son in the weeks before he killed his wife, the boy and himself at their suburban Atlanta home while consumed by "roid rage," a prosecutor said yesterday.
Fayette County, Ga., District Attorney Scott Ballard said Daniel Benoit had needle marks on his arm. Ballard said he believed the boy had been given growth hormone because his parents considered the boy undersized.
"The boy was very small, even dwarfed," Ballard said.
The disturbing developments came as law enforcement officials were investigating whether Benoit suffered from "roid rage" when he strangled his wife and suffocated their son before hanging himself on a weight-machine pulley over the weekend.
Law enforcement sources told the Daily News that Benoit was a client of two businesses at the heart of a massive national steroid and HGH trafficking scam being probed by New York State prosecutors and narcotics agents.
The sources said a Florida company called MedXLife wrote prescriptions for Benoit that were filled at Signature Pharmacy in Orlando and shipped to his home in the Atlanta suburbs. The sources could not confirm what substances Benoit had received.
The musclebound Benoit - a former heavyweight champion known as "The Canadian Crippler" - killed his wife, Nancy, on Friday and smothered their sleeping son, Daniel, late Saturday or early Sunday, leaving Bibles by their bodies, authorities said.
Investigators who forced their way into Benoit's home after the weekend killing spree found anabolic steroids. Authorities said they want to know whether Benoit was unhinged by the drugs - which can cause paranoia, depression and explosive outbursts known as "roid rage."
World Wrestling Entertainment officials alerted cops after Benoit, 40, texted "curious" messages to pals over the weekend.
Sources told The News he was sending the wrestlers biblical passages and sections of his will.
The WWE posted text messages that Benoit allegedly sent on its Web site. One, sent four times, gave his address, and the other, sent once, said where to find his dogs.
Police said Benoit's 43-year-old wife was killed Friday in an upstairs family room, her feet and wrists were bound and there was blood under her head, indicating a possible struggle. Daniel was found dead in his bed.
Benoit's 220-pound body was discovered in the basement. The Montreal-born athlete committed suicide as much as a day after killing his son, cops said.
While police found anabolic steroids and "a lot of prescription medication," there was no suicide note and cops had no motive. Cops said blood tests were being conducted to determine whether Benoit had been using steroids or other drugs.
WWE warned against jumping to conclusions before toxicology reports were complete, which could take weeks.
Benoit had canceled scheduled appearances Saturday and Sunday. The absences were blamed on a "family emergency."
Prosecutors confirmed that Benoit's wife, a wrestling manager known as "Woman," had filed for divorce in 2003 and asked for a restraining order. In court papers, Nancy Benoit said she was "in reasonable fear for [her] own safety and that of the minor child."
But she asked for the case to be dismissed three months after filing. "
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I just hope they dont milk it like they did Eddies death.....
Come on man, it's WWE. Of course they will and they will try to make money off his death too. God damn makes me wonder why I watch this wrestling crap sometimes. The McMahon family have no fucking compassion. At least I still have a lot of old school wrestling footage, which reminds me, I might watch the end of Wrestlemania 20. You remember that celebration at the end with Benoit and Eddie?? That has soooo much more meaning to it now. Both men at the peak of the careers not knowing what is going to happen next. Plus that fantastic match they had together at the original One Night Stand. Looks like I know what I'm doing tonight.
Hey i resent that comment. WWE didnt have to do anything after Eddie died, everyone knows you become more famous after you die, (think Kurt Cobain.) So his merchandise probably sold double or triple what it usually does, the same will happen for Benoit now, that's not WWEs doing, that's just the way these things happen- they were great when they were alive, now they're both dead people will realise just how great they were. I dont think wrestling will recover from this one. I dont think it was ever the same after Eddie died, and now Benoit.
Not sure how WWE is going to react to the news either- i think feelings r going to be mixed about this- definately anger and sadness. Will be interesting to see. Im still mourning Eddie, and i cant help but think maybe his death was a contributing factor in a lot of this. Eitherway RIP Benoit.
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"Benoit strangled wife, smothered son
Wrestling superstar Chris Benoit strangled his wife, smothered his son and then hanged himself in his weight room, according to police.
Police investigators announced the grisly findings at a press conference this morning (AEST).
"Mr Benoit had sometime, possibly Friday, murdered his wife by asphyxiation. Sometime shortly after that, the same for his son Daniel and sometime later ... committed suicide by hanging himself in the basement area," officials said in a statement from the Fayetteville Sheriff's Department.
The bodies of the 40-year-old wrestler, his wife, Nancy Benoit, 43, and their seven-year-old son, Daniel, were found in three separate rooms at their Atlanta home on Monday.
Mrs Benoit was bound at the wrists and feet, with a towel wrapped around her body and blood underneath her head, according to officials.
A Bible was reportedly found near each one of the bodies.
World Wrestling Entertainment staff asked police to check on Benoit after they were alerted to a series of "curious" text messages he had sent to friends, reportedly during Sunday's Vengeance TV wrestling program.
There has been speculation he was watching the program with his son, who may have been alive at the time.
However, police say they believe Benoit died on Saturday. Authorities understand he used a cord from one of his workout machines as a makeshift noose.
Toxicology tests will show whether steroids or prescription drugs, both found inside the Benoit home, could have been a factor in the deaths. Steroid abuse has been linked to angry outbursts known as "roid rage."
As the investigation continues, Benoit's history of domestic abuse has been brought into the spotlight.
Mrs Benoit had filed for divorce and a restraining order against her husband in 2003, telling a judge she was "intimidated by threats of violence."
In the papers, Nancy claimed that Benoit, "lost his temper and threatened to strike the petitioner and cause extensive damage to the home and personal belongings of the parties, including furniture."
She also said she was "in reasonable fear for petitioner's own safety and that of the minor child."
Three months later, she withdrew the divorce papers and a judge cancelled the proceedings.
Some friends of Benoit, however, are unable to accept that would harm his family.
"He was very happy with his wife and he loved his son Daniel," Ross Hart, a friend of Benoit and member of the Hart wrestling family, told the Edmonton Journal.
"This would be very uncharacteristic of Chris to do anything self-destructive. I find it very hard to believe that he would end his life or his family's."
This doesn't look good at all :o :(
You forgot to list the link you got the info from- could be anyone saying anything for all we know.
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Yeah the West Australian confirmed it today. Totally;y shocked. I'm, not a big fan of wrestling but i used to watch a couple vids at Smitty's house a year ago and got to know Benoit.
Here's what the West Australian says:
1. the murder-suicide theory could not be confirmed until a crime lab examined the evidence
2. investigators believed Benoit killed his wife and son on the weekend and then himself monday morning
3. a neighbour called police and the bodies were found in 3 rooms
There's no definates, no mentions of WWE text msgs or of WWE calling the police. People shouldnt jump to conclusions. It'll all be revealed soon and in the meantime you guys could be tarnishing an innocent mans name.
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Yeah the West Australian confirmed it today. Totally;y shocked. I'm, not a big fan of wrestling but i used to watch a couple vids at Smitty's house a year ago and got to know Benoit.
Here's what the West Australian says:
1. the murder-suicide theory could not be confirmed until a crime lab examined the evidence
2. investigators believed Benoit killed his wife and son on the weekend and then himself monday morning
3. a neighbour called police and the bodies were found in 3 rooms
There's no definates, no mentions of WWE text msgs or of WWE calling the police. People shouldnt jump to conclusions. It'll all be revealed soon and in the meantime you guys could be tarnishing an innocent mans name.
innocent?!?! Ha...hardly innocent! The WWE HAVE confirmed suspicious Text Messages, it has also been confirmed that all 3 died of asphyxiation, 2 of which were murdered, and he himself was found hanging and remember all this happened in a high security home with 2 rottweillers (so that pretty much rules out foul play from an outside party). I think theres enough evidence, circumstantial or otherwise to pretty much confirm that there was suspicious activity, and ALL things point to Benoit. I cant believe you could even entertain the idea he is innocent.
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Yeah the West Australian confirmed it today. Totally;y shocked. I'm, not a big fan of wrestling but i used to watch a couple vids at Smitty's house a year ago and got to know Benoit.
Here's what the West Australian says:
1. the murder-suicide theory could not be confirmed until a crime lab examined the evidence
2. investigators believed Benoit killed his wife and son on the weekend and then himself monday morning
3. a neighbour called police and the bodies were found in 3 rooms
There's no definates, no mentions of WWE text msgs or of WWE calling the police. People shouldnt jump to conclusions. It'll all be revealed soon and in the meantime you guys could be tarnishing an innocent mans name.
maybe you should jump on the WWE website before you start getting things wrong :P there were indeed texts made from him etc
http://www.wwe.com/inside/news/benoitpressures
http://www.wwe.com/inside/news/chrisbenoittimeline
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Yeah the West Australian confirmed it today. Totally;y shocked. I'm, not a big fan of wrestling but i used to watch a couple vids at Smitty's house a year ago and got to know Benoit.
Here's what the West Australian says:
1. the murder-suicide theory could not be confirmed until a crime lab examined the evidence
2. investigators believed Benoit killed his wife and son on the weekend and then himself monday morning
3. a neighbour called police and the bodies were found in 3 rooms
There's no definates, no mentions of WWE text msgs or of WWE calling the police. People shouldnt jump to conclusions. It'll all be revealed soon and in the meantime you guys could be tarnishing an innocent mans name.
innocent?!?! Ha...hardly innocent! The WWE HAVE confirmed suspicious Text Messages, it has also been confirmed that all 3 died of asphyxiation, 2 of which were murdered, and he himself was found hanging and remember all this happened in a high security home with 2 rottweillers (so that pretty much rules out foul play from an outside party). I think theres enough evidence, circumstantial or otherwise to pretty much confirm that there was suspicious activity, and ALL things point to Benoit. I cant believe you could even entertain the idea he is innocent.
We'll never know the full story, so dont go thinking cos you've got a few parts of the puzzle that it must have happened the way you think it did. The majority of the 'evidence' you are going from isnt even from sources listed, you want definate evidence wait for the autopsy results to come out. Circumstantial is not even worth mentioning.
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11 AM 6/27/2007
WWE has released a timeline of events on their end of things:
-Saturday afternoon, Chris contacted them to say he'd miss the house show in Texas that day because Nancy and Daniel were 'ill'.
-Sunday morning they tried to tell Chris about the flight they booked to get him to the PPV, but they couldn't get through to him.
-Chris sent 5 text messages between 3:53 and 3:58 AM, most of which were just giving his home address and one of which said where his dogs were.
-They kept calling throughout Sunday and checked area hospitals.
-At noon on Monday they were shown the text messages and that prompted them to call police.
Chris has turned up in an investigation of a company in Florida that sold steroids illegally. This stems from a Sports Illustrated story in February that focused on major athletes. They has Chris' name but didn't release it at the time.
In regards to steroids, it's not out of the question that they effected Chris, but not how the media is reporting it. Prolonged use, which he certainly did, leads to a lower natural ability to produce testosterone. If he really did stop using after Eddie's death he might have suffered from depression and other effects of withdrawal. Roid rage would explain the past abuse, roid absense would explain his behavior over the last year.
In regards to Daniel being given injections, it has been said that he might suffer from something called Fragile X Syndrome which would require human growth hormone to treat.
An AP story alludes to a phone call on Saturday, which I assume was with Chavo, in which Chris said that Nancy and Daniel had food poisoning and were vomiting blood.
Quoted from Ditch's whestling site.
Just more circumstantial evidence, possibly happenings to clear chris from alledgedly injecting his son with something unwholesome.
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We'll never know the full story, so dont go thinking cos you've got a few parts of the puzzle that it must have happened the way you think it did. The majority of the 'evidence' you are going from isnt even from sources listed, you want definate evidence wait for the autopsy results to come out. Circumstantial is not even worth mentioning.
OK, well why dont we wait and see whos right then?
I know what you are saying; you cant jump to conclusions, but dont you think that if there was any doubts what-so-ever there would be speculation circling around everywhere? Apart from your post, I have not seen anything on any website, any forum or anything at all to suggest other wise. I get the feeling you are just being hopeful so as to not taint (Im guessing) one of your favourite wrestlers image.
The key word in any crime is "reasonable doubt". So far I have seen nothing at all to give reasonable doubt to the fact that Benoit did what is being alleged.
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Yeah the West Australian confirmed it today. Totally;y shocked. I'm, not a big fan of wrestling but i used to watch a couple vids at Smitty's house a year ago and got to know Benoit.
Here's what the West Australian says:
1. the murder-suicide theory could not be confirmed until a crime lab examined the evidence
2. investigators believed Benoit killed his wife and son on the weekend and then himself monday morning
3. a neighbour called police and the bodies were found in 3 rooms
There's no definates, no mentions of WWE text msgs or of WWE calling the police. People shouldnt jump to conclusions. It'll all be revealed soon and in the meantime you guys could be tarnishing an innocent mans name.
innocent?!?! Ha...hardly innocent! The WWE HAVE confirmed suspicious Text Messages, it has also been confirmed that all 3 died of asphyxiation, 2 of which were murdered, and he himself was found hanging and remember all this happened in a high security home with 2 rottweillers (so that pretty much rules out foul play from an outside party). I think theres enough evidence, circumstantial or otherwise to pretty much confirm that there was suspicious activity, and ALL things point to Benoit. I cant believe you could even entertain the idea he is innocent.
We'll never know the full story, so dont go thinking cos you've got a few parts of the puzzle that it must have happened the way you think it did. The majority of the 'evidence' you are going from isnt even from sources listed, you want definate evidence wait for the autopsy results to come out. Circumstantial is not even worth mentioning.
well cheers for adding nothing to this thread, if you notice we aren't the judge or jury, what we are doing is posting info we have read while we try to shed some light on the situation and chat about what may be true and what isn't.
I am a huge Benoit fan and I cant see how discussing this matter is going to make things worse.
If anything after hearing the news it's comforting to be able to talk to people about it because I know once I'm off this forum no one I know really follows the WWE and all I'm going to get is "he killed his wife and kid what a fuckhead" (not to mention a shit load of other crap) this is the only place so far I have spoken about the whole thing and have had mature responses.
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well cheers for adding nothing to this thread, if you notice we aren't the judge or jury, what we are doing is posting info we have read while we try to shed some light on the situation and chat about what may be true and what isn't.
I am a huge Benoit fan and I cant see how discussing this matter is going to make things worse.
If anything after hearing the news it's comforting to be able to talk to people about it because I know once I'm off this forum no one I know really follows the WWE and all I'm going to get is "he killed his wife and kid what a fuckhead" (not to mention a shit load of other crap) this is the only place so far I have spoken about the whole thing and have had mature responses.
Well said Mick. I, personally, am not all that interested in Wrestling these days, and the last time I got into it even remotely, it was still called WWF. All that aside, I have heard of Chris Benoit and the fact he was a great wrestler and showman, and this story has really grabbed my attention.
As you said about things in the real world as opposed to posting on WF about a certain topic, that same theory can be applied to many different subjects that pop up from time to time on this wonderful forum. Diverse lot we are here, with interests varying across many different aspects of life, which is great. Lets keep it that way.
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Yeah the West Australian confirmed it today. Totally;y shocked. I'm, not a big fan of wrestling but i used to watch a couple vids at Smitty's house a year ago and got to know Benoit.
Here's what the West Australian says:
1. the murder-suicide theory could not be confirmed until a crime lab examined the evidence
2. investigators believed Benoit killed his wife and son on the weekend and then himself monday morning
3. a neighbour called police and the bodies were found in 3 rooms
There's no definates, no mentions of WWE text msgs or of WWE calling the police. People shouldnt jump to conclusions. It'll all be revealed soon and in the meantime you guys could be tarnishing an innocent mans name.
innocent?!?! Ha...hardly innocent! The WWE HAVE confirmed suspicious Text Messages, it has also been confirmed that all 3 died of asphyxiation, 2 of which were murdered, and he himself was found hanging and remember all this happened in a high security home with 2 rottweillers (so that pretty much rules out foul play from an outside party). I think theres enough evidence, circumstantial or otherwise to pretty much confirm that there was suspicious activity, and ALL things point to Benoit. I cant believe you could even entertain the idea he is innocent.
We'll never know the full story, so dont go thinking cos you've got a few parts of the puzzle that it must have happened the way you think it did. The majority of the 'evidence' you are going from isnt even from sources listed, you want definate evidence wait for the autopsy results to come out. Circumstantial is not even worth mentioning.
well cheers for adding nothing to this thread, if you notice we aren't the judge or jury, what we are doing is posting info we have read while we try to shed some light on the situation and chat about what may be true and what isn't.
I am a huge Benoit fan and I cant see how discussing this matter is going to make things worse.
If anything after hearing the news it's comforting to be able to talk to people about it because I know once I'm off this forum no one I know really follows the WWE and all I'm going to get is "he killed his wife and kid what a fuckhead" (not to mention a shit load of other crap) this is the only place so far I have spoken about the whole thing and have had mature responses.
You're right to a degree, there's a lot of ppl just posting info about what they've read and that's great. Its the other comments that upset me, the fact that ppl can say things about him as though they r certain of what happened and happy to judge. Its ok to be angry about what happened, its ok to be sad about it too, but the comments (like you said above that ppl r saying) "he killed his wife and kid what a fuckhead"- they r being stated on here as well. I'd rather mourn the lost lives then look for someone to blame i guess.
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Yeah the West Australian confirmed it today. Totally;y shocked. I'm, not a big fan of wrestling but i used to watch a couple vids at Smitty's house a year ago and got to know Benoit.
Here's what the West Australian says:
1. the murder-suicide theory could not be confirmed until a crime lab examined the evidence
2. investigators believed Benoit killed his wife and son on the weekend and then himself monday morning
3. a neighbour called police and the bodies were found in 3 rooms
There's no definates, no mentions of WWE text msgs or of WWE calling the police. People shouldnt jump to conclusions. It'll all be revealed soon and in the meantime you guys could be tarnishing an innocent mans name.
innocent?!?! Ha...hardly innocent! The WWE HAVE confirmed suspicious Text Messages, it has also been confirmed that all 3 died of asphyxiation, 2 of which were murdered, and he himself was found hanging and remember all this happened in a high security home with 2 rottweillers (so that pretty much rules out foul play from an outside party). I think theres enough evidence, circumstantial or otherwise to pretty much confirm that there was suspicious activity, and ALL things point to Benoit. I cant believe you could even entertain the idea he is innocent.
We'll never know the full story, so dont go thinking cos you've got a few parts of the puzzle that it must have happened the way you think it did. The majority of the 'evidence' you are going from isnt even from sources listed, you want definate evidence wait for the autopsy results to come out. Circumstantial is not even worth mentioning.
well cheers for adding nothing to this thread, if you notice we aren't the judge or jury, what we are doing is posting info we have read while we try to shed some light on the situation and chat about what may be true and what isn't.
I am a huge Benoit fan and I cant see how discussing this matter is going to make things worse.
If anything after hearing the news it's comforting to be able to talk to people about it because I know once I'm off this forum no one I know really follows the WWE and all I'm going to get is "he killed his wife and kid what a fuckhead" (not to mention a shit load of other crap) this is the only place so far I have spoken about the whole thing and have had mature responses.
You're right to a degree, there's a lot of ppl just posting info about what they've read and that's great. Its the other comments that upset me, the fact that ppl can say things about him as though they r certain of what happened and happy to judge. Its ok to be angry about what happened, its ok to be sad about it too, but the comments (like you said above that ppl r saying) "he killed his wife and kid what a fuckhead"- they r being stated on here as well. I'd rather mourn the lost lives then look for someone to blame i guess.
don't let it get to you, it is a forum after all...
it sucked when Eddie died (my son actually cried) and now Chris, both my favourite wrestlers if anything happened to Rey Mysterio that would be all my favourite wrestlers gone, it wouldn't be the same :'(
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As you said about things in the real world as opposed to posting on WF about a certain topic, that same theory can be applied to many different subjects that pop up from time to time on this wonderful forum.
YEAH I AGREE - EXAMPLES OF SUCH PARADOX'S EXIST EVERYWHERE. FOR EXAMPLE - YOU'RE A COOL GUY IN THE REAL WORLD WHILST ON AN ONLINE MEDIUM SUCH AS EBAY YOU ARE SOME NON-PAYING, SHILL BIDDING, NO LONGER A REGISTERED USER, LOWLIFE, RIPOFF, SCUMBAG, DROPKICK, DRONGO. QUITE THE MARKED DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE TWO I MUST SAY ;D
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Yeah the West Australian confirmed it today. Totally;y shocked. I'm, not a big fan of wrestling but i used to watch a couple vids at Smitty's house a year ago and got to know Benoit.
Here's what the West Australian says:
1. the murder-suicide theory could not be confirmed until a crime lab examined the evidence
2. investigators believed Benoit killed his wife and son on the weekend and then himself monday morning
3. a neighbour called police and the bodies were found in 3 rooms
There's no definates, no mentions of WWE text msgs or of WWE calling the police. People shouldnt jump to conclusions. It'll all be revealed soon and in the meantime you guys could be tarnishing an innocent mans name.
innocent?!?! Ha...hardly innocent! The WWE HAVE confirmed suspicious Text Messages, it has also been confirmed that all 3 died of asphyxiation, 2 of which were murdered, and he himself was found hanging and remember all this happened in a high security home with 2 rottweillers (so that pretty much rules out foul play from an outside party). I think theres enough evidence, circumstantial or otherwise to pretty much confirm that there was suspicious activity, and ALL things point to Benoit. I cant believe you could even entertain the idea he is innocent.
We'll never know the full story, so dont go thinking cos you've got a few parts of the puzzle that it must have happened the way you think it did. The majority of the 'evidence' you are going from isnt even from sources listed, you want definate evidence wait for the autopsy results to come out. Circumstantial is not even worth mentioning.
well cheers for adding nothing to this thread, if you notice we aren't the judge or jury, what we are doing is posting info we have read while we try to shed some light on the situation and chat about what may be true and what isn't.
I am a huge Benoit fan and I cant see how discussing this matter is going to make things worse.
If anything after hearing the news it's comforting to be able to talk to people about it because I know once I'm off this forum no one I know really follows the WWE and all I'm going to get is "he killed his wife and kid what a fuckhead" (not to mention a shit load of other crap) this is the only place so far I have spoken about the whole thing and have had mature responses.
You're right to a degree, there's a lot of ppl just posting info about what they've read and that's great. Its the other comments that upset me, the fact that ppl can say things about him as though they r certain of what happened and happy to judge. Its ok to be angry about what happened, its ok to be sad about it too, but the comments (like you said above that ppl r saying) "he killed his wife and kid what a fuckhead"- they r being stated on here as well. I'd rather mourn the lost lives then look for someone to blame i guess.
don't let it get to you, it is a forum after all...
it sucked when Eddie died (my son actually cried) and now Chris, both my favourite wrestlers if anything happened to Rey Mysterio that would be all my favourite wrestlers gone, it wouldn't be the same :'(
:-[ I think i already have let it get to me. It hasnt been the same since Eddie died, he was my all time favourite. :-[ I cried when i found out about Eddie, and Benoit, and i balled during the tribute to Eddie. Nah things really arent going to be the same with wrestling ever again now.
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Does anyone remember when Owen Hart died?
They had a nice tribute show for him.
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As you said about things in the real world as opposed to posting on WF about a certain topic, that same theory can be applied to many different subjects that pop up from time to time on this wonderful forum.
YEAH I AGREE - EXAMPLES OF SUCH PARADOX'S EXIST EVERYWHERE. FOR EXAMPLE - YOU'RE A COOL GUY IN THE REAL WORLD WHILST ON AN ONLINE MEDIUM SUCH AS EBAY YOU ARE SOME NON-PAYING, SHILL BIDDING, NO LONGER A REGISTERED USER, LOWLIFE, RIPOFF, SCUMBAG, DROPKICK, DRONGO. QUITE THE MARKED DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE TWO I MUST SAY ;D
OK, let me clear this up. My sister used my ebay to bid on 4 things, then took 3 weeks to pay for them, subsequently I ended up with 4 non paying strikes almost simultaneously, even though I had explained the situation to each seller. Anyway, its all paid for now and sorted. As for the shrill bidding, yes I admit I shouldnt have done that, but I was having second thoughts about my Gorgoroth CD as it is a great album and pretty much mint. At least that way I still end up with a positive feedback and a sale (although it costs me fees), rather than just pulling the auction off. Still, I did the wrong thing there and shouldnt have done it. Nice investigative work by the way SOD. ;) Anyway, in the end all my other sales went very smoothly, all have been mailed off everyone has been happy.
now....back to Wrestling...
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As you said about things in the real world as opposed to posting on WF about a certain topic, that same theory can be applied to many different subjects that pop up from time to time on this wonderful forum.
YEAH I AGREE - EXAMPLES OF SUCH PARADOX'S EXIST EVERYWHERE. FOR EXAMPLE - YOU'RE A COOL GUY IN THE REAL WORLD WHILST ON AN ONLINE MEDIUM SUCH AS EBAY YOU ARE SOME NON-PAYING, SHILL BIDDING, NO LONGER A REGISTERED USER, LOWLIFE, RIPOFF, SCUMBAG, DROPKICK, DRONGO. QUITE THE MARKED DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE TWO I MUST SAY ;D
OK, let me clear this up. My sister used my ebay to bid on 4 things, then took 3 weeks to pay for them, subsequently I ended up with 4 non paying strikes almost simultaneously, even though I had explained the situation to each seller. Anyway, its all paid for now and sorted. As for the shrill bidding, yes I admit I shouldnt have done that, but I was having second thoughts about my Gorgoroth CD as it is a great album and pretty much mint. At least that way I still end up with a positive feedback and a sale (although it costs me fees), rather than just pulling the auction off. Still, I did the wrong thing there and shouldnt have done it. Nice investigative work by the way SOD. ;) Anyway, in the end all my other sales went very smoothly, all have been mailed off everyone has been happy.
now....back to Wrestling...
ha ha ha :rofl: I like your work
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man What the hell!!! :err:
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I dont care about any of this, I just wonder if his missus tried to tap out.
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Louise, you're evil for making me laugh..
but I did see your post by itself out of context so that's not as bad.
:)
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Ok now there's shit up on the net saying that his wife was announced dead on Wikipedia 13 HOURS BEFORE THE THREE BODIES WERE FOUND. Don't know how accurate this is but it was on ninemsn.
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Ok now there's shit up on the net saying that his wife was announced dead on Wikipedia 13 HOURS BEFORE THE THREE BODIES WERE FOUND. Don't know how accurate this is but it was on ninemsn.
what? No way.....who the fuck comes up with this shit?
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Heh yeah, I read that on ninemsn too.. uuhhh??
Is it possible they just 'made a mistake'?!
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Ok now there's shit up on the net saying that his wife was announced dead on Wikipedia 13 HOURS BEFORE THE THREE BODIES WERE FOUND. Don't know how accurate this is but it was on ninemsn.
Ahhhh... Wikipedia. The site where anyone can claim anything. All you have to do is sign up. Nah I try to stay away from that site nowadays, those idiots will put anything up.
But anyway back to the Benoit theories. I'm wondering if Benoit had serious depression after his best friend Eddie had died. Eddie was Benoit's shining light and always was there for him to discuss anything especially certain family issues that might have been going on. Without him he had no personal support and no one to trust fully in his time of need. No excuse I know, but I'm still wondering what the fuck was going through his head.
Katie is right though. With Benoit and Eddie gone from wrestling, the media pointing the finger souly at WWE and steroids, and the current state of wrestling as a whole, wrestling is in deeper shit then it has been ever. Either the business is forced to clean up it's act or the whole thing will crumble before itself. I have gone on a lot of different wrestling forums recently and this incident has scarred so many people to the point that a lot of them are giving up on the whole thing, cause everything they have believed in has gone.
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Ok now there's shit up on the net saying that his wife was announced dead on Wikipedia 13 HOURS BEFORE THE THREE BODIES WERE FOUND. Don't know how accurate this is but it was on ninemsn.
Yeah this is what I found on it:
Death Of Nancy Benoit Revealed On Wikipedia Early
Date Added: June 28, 2007
Story By: Ryan Gray
Fox News is reporting a chilling twist to the Benoit Family tragedy. Apparently a Wikipedia article on Chris Benoit listed that he missed the WWE Vengeance pay-per-view, "due to personal issues, stemming from the death of his wife Nancy" 14 hours before the family was found dead.
To make the situation even more chilling the IP address was traced to Stamford, Connecticut, which is of course, is where the headquarters of World Wrestling Entertainment is located.
Wikipedia volunteer coordinator Cary Bass contacted the Fayetteville police department in regard to the posting. "I chat with other editors on IRC -- Internet relay chat -- and somebody pointed it out to me on a relay chat and that it came from a Stamford connection, and that it took place at midnight Eastern Standard Time on Monday morning," said Bass. “I called and left a message with the police department.”
We should note that anything that is posted on Wikipedia records a users IP address, time, and what exactly was written on the web site, so this wouldn't have been a case of a hoax.
Authorities are now actively seeking whoever made the change.
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"And now it's turned out that Chris went to the doctor on Friday and that he was being treated for low testosterone levels. The doctor's office has apparently been raided by the DEA.
WWE has confirmed that Daniel had 'Fragile X', and that the treatment was a source of tension between Chris and Nancy. Nancy wanted Chris home more to help take care of Daniel. "
Taken from Ditch's WWE news site.
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I remember watching Chris fight Brock Lesnar for the heavyweight title once when WWE came to Perth. Ever since then he has been one of my favorite fighters.
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this has been floating around a few circles
Im not claiming its true, im not claiming its not
just thought it'd add some fuel to your discussions
http://www.johnnyleeclary.com/benoitmurdered.htm
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Clearly Courtney Love did it.
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this has been floating around a few circles
Im not claiming its true, im not claiming its not
just thought it'd add some fuel to your discussions
http://www.johnnyleeclary.com/benoitmurdered.htm
interesting, I'm not reading to much into it but it certainly tells you that we'll never really know what happened.
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this has been floating around a few circles
Im not claiming its true, im not claiming its not
just thought it'd add some fuel to your discussions
http://www.johnnyleeclary.com/benoitmurdered.htm
That's so far fetched even I don't by it & I believe almost everything.
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Just found this:
Benoit wrestle hold killed son
By SIMON ROTHSTEIN of THE LILSBOYS
July 02, 2007
COMMENT ON THIS STORY
IN another disturbing twist on the Chris Benoit killings, it now appears the grappler murdered his seven-year-old son using his own wrestling finishing hold.
Police in Georgia are speculating that Benoit ended young Daniel's life with the Crippler Crossface the same move that he used in almost all his matches, including when he beat Triple H for the heavyweight title at WWE WrestleMania XX.
District Attorney Scott Ballard said: "A choke hold was used to strangle the boy, rather than hands, because there's no bruising consistent with strangulation by hands."
Respected American wrestling scribe Dave Meltzer added: "The police investigators were perplexed by the nature of the bruising on Daniel, until one of them watched footage of a Benoit wrestling match, saw him using the move, and in looking closely, realized the bruising patterns on Daniel matched the application of the hold."
ALso have seen a similar story here
http://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/articles/2007/06/28/1182624029846.html
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Clearly Courtney Love did it.
Heheh.
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That's so far fetched even I don't by it & I believe almost everything.
My thoughts exactly. I am patiently waiting for the obligatory ninja invasion theory to be put forward.
Actually the Courtney Love comment actually made me think of the similar sorts of conspiracy theories and hysteria that followed the suicide (yes that's SUICIDE) of Kurt Cobain.
I've been following this for a few days; celebrity deaths always garner odd little reactions in people and it's interesting to see the knee jerk reaction that a lot of people had when their favourite wrestler flipped the fuck out and choked the snot out of his missus and little boy. People will come up with the most bizarre, convoluted theories of what they think actually happened, and then fool themselves into believing them; in doing so, the image of their hero remains, in their mind, untarnished. You can see in some of the links posted above, sometimes a person's belief in a 'best case scenario' goes so far that tangible evidence is completely disregarded. With time, however, most of these people will come to accept that it was not, in fact, Kevin Sullivan, a ninja, or even Courtney Love that murdered the Benoit family, but Chris himself.
Occasionally you get a group of deluded idiots who simply refuse to acknowledge fact. My money is on the good reverend being one of them.
Interesting, I'm not reading to much into it but it certainly tells you that we'll never really know what happened.
Beg to differ. The crippler crossface happened, that's what.
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That's so far fetched even I don't by it & I believe almost everything.
My thoughts exactly. I am patiently waiting for the obligatory ninja invasion theory to be put forward.
Actually the Courtney Love comment actually made me think of the similar sorts of conspiracy theories and hysteria that followed the suicide (yes that's SUICIDE) of Kurt Cobain.
I've been following this for a few days; celebrity deaths always garner odd little reactions in people and it's interesting to see the knee jerk reaction that a lot of people had when their favourite wrestler flipped the fuck out and choked the snot out of his missus and little boy. People will come up with the most bizarre, convoluted theories of what they think actually happened, and then fool themselves into believing them; in doing so, the image of their hero remains, in their mind, untarnished. You can see in some of the links posted above, sometimes a person's belief in a 'best case scenario' goes so far that tangible evidence is completely disregarded. With time, however, most of these people will come to accept that it was not, in fact, Kevin Sullivan, a ninja, or even Courtney Love that murdered the Benoit family, but Chris himself.
Occasionally you get a group of deluded idiots who simply refuse to acknowledge fact. My money is on the good reverend being one of them.
Interesting, I'm not reading to much into it but it certainly tells you that we'll never really know what happened.
Beg to differ. The crippler crossface happened, that's what.
While i'm not agreeing with this conspiracy theory I would say that just because the crippler crossface was used doesnt automatically make Benoit the killer. In fact it almost backs up the theory that they were killed by another wrestler, i mean cmon if they wanted to make it look like he really did it that'd be the way to go....
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That's so far fetched even I don't by it & I believe almost everything.
My thoughts exactly. I am patiently waiting for the obligatory ninja invasion theory to be put forward.
Actually the Courtney Love comment actually made me think of the similar sorts of conspiracy theories and hysteria that followed the suicide (yes that's SUICIDE) of Kurt Cobain.
I've been following this for a few days; celebrity deaths always garner odd little reactions in people and it's interesting to see the knee jerk reaction that a lot of people had when their favourite wrestler flipped the fuck out and choked the snot out of his missus and little boy. People will come up with the most bizarre, convoluted theories of what they think actually happened, and then fool themselves into believing them; in doing so, the image of their hero remains, in their mind, untarnished. You can see in some of the links posted above, sometimes a person's belief in a 'best case scenario' goes so far that tangible evidence is completely disregarded. With time, however, most of these people will come to accept that it was not, in fact, Kevin Sullivan, a ninja, or even Courtney Love that murdered the Benoit family, but Chris himself.
Occasionally you get a group of deluded idiots who simply refuse to acknowledge fact. My money is on the good reverend being one of them.
Interesting, I'm not reading to much into it but it certainly tells you that we'll never really know what happened.
Beg to differ. The crippler crossface happened, that's what.
Bah, Courtney love murdered Kurt Cobain and everyone knows it, it's common knowledge that she's a dirty sleezy greedy money hungry scrag who'd sell her eggs for plastic surgery money. The doco's on this are pretty full on to prove it too.
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Goddamn Inge! Your reputation is 19 still! I would have expected it to sail into the shitter by now, not too far from mine!
COME ON PEOPLE! Let the hate flloowwww through you! :P
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Goddamn Inge! Your reputation is 19 still! I would have expected it to sail into the shitter by now, not too far from mine!
COME ON PEOPLE! Let the hate flloowwww through you! :P
Done, you have now been smited!!! Didnt think that last comment through very well didya Dan??? ;D
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Goddamn Inge! Your reputation is 19 still! I would have expected it to sail into the shitter by now, not too far from mine!
COME ON PEOPLE! Let the hate flloowwww through you! :P
Done, you have now been smited!!! Didnt think that last comment through very well didya Dan??? ;D
Actually, I was expecting and hoping EXACTLY that I would get smited instead. YOU ARE MAKING ME STRONGER LOL!
SOON I SHALL OVERPOWER YOUR MERE MIKEY SMITE KING, AND RULE WF FOR ETERNITY!!!!
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Goddamn Inge! Your reputation is 19 still! I would have expected it to sail into the shitter by now, not too far from mine!
COME ON PEOPLE! Let the hate flloowwww through you! :P
Done, you have now been smited!!! Didnt think that last comment through very well didya Dan??? ;D
Actually, I was expecting and hoping EXACTLY that I would get smited instead. YOU ARE MAKING ME STRONGER LOL!
SOON I SHALL OVERPOWER YOUR MERE MIKEY SMITE KING, AND RULE WF FOR ETERNITY!!!!
youve thought this one through... ;D
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Bah, Courtney love murdered Kurt Cobain and everyone knows it, it's common knowledge that she's a dirty sleezy greedy money hungry scrag who'd sell her eggs for plastic surgery money. The doco's on this are pretty full on to prove it too.
Loose Change was pretty 'full on' as well. And the moon landing conspiracy documentary.
Doco makers wouldn't make half the quids if they just went around making films based on fact.
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Bah, Courtney love murdered Kurt Cobain and everyone knows it, it's common knowledge that she's a dirty sleezy greedy money hungry scrag who'd sell her eggs for plastic surgery money. The doco's on this are pretty full on to prove it too.
Loose Change was pretty 'full on' as well. And the moon landing conspiracy documentary.
Doco makers wouldn't make half the quids if they just went around making films based on fact.
i also watched a 9/11 conspiracy show which actually made sense
e.g. where the fuck did the plane go after it hit the pentagon?
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(http://i147.photobucket.com/albums/r314/cuthtw07/chrisbenoit.jpg)
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That is in SOO bad taste. :thumbdown:
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i also watched a 9/11 conspiracy show which actually made sense
e.g. where the fuck did the plane go after it hit the pentagon?
Oh. There it is!
http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread79655/pg1 (http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread79655/pg1)
The whole point of these sensationalist documentaries is to get the viewer to think that it makes perfect sense, while leaving out (or rendering unimportant) the little tid-bits that work against the theory that they are trying to put forward.
A doco that makes no sense whatsoever will be completely disregarded, which spells bad news at the box office.
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i also watched a 9/11 conspiracy show which actually made sense
e.g. where the fuck did the plane go after it hit the pentagon?
Oh. There it is!
http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread79655/pg1 (http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread79655/pg1)
The whole point of these sensationalist documentaries is to get the viewer to think that it makes perfect sense, while leaving out (or rendering unimportant) the little tid-bits that work against the theory that they are trying to put forward.
A doco that makes no sense whatsoever will be completely disregarded, which spells bad news at the box office.
well that puts my theory to rest
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That is in SOO bad taste. :thumbdown:
(http://i147.photobucket.com/albums/r314/cuthtw07/chrisbenoit5.jpg)
(http://i147.photobucket.com/albums/r314/cuthtw07/lolfamily.jpg)
someone mention bad taste?
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(http://i147.photobucket.com/albums/r314/cuthtw07/chrisbenoit.jpg)
Hahaha... that's WIN!
But nothing beats the one with the teeth and the blue laser... "IMMA KILLIN MA FAMILY!!!11" c0ck g0es wh3r3?
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That is in SOO bad taste. :thumbdown:
(http://i147.photobucket.com/albums/r314/cuthtw07/chrisbenoit5.jpg)
(http://i147.photobucket.com/albums/r314/cuthtw07/lolfamily.jpg)
someone mention bad taste?
NOT COOL DUDE!!
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ok this is the last one I have. for those with a slightly twisted sense of humour :D
(http://i147.photobucket.com/albums/r314/cuthtw07/chrisbenoittapout.jpg)
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hahaha, classic!
I find these far more enjoyable than fucked up false news reports, gullible idiots spreading rumours and hardcore fans that get insulted by hilarious jokes made about the deaths of their heroes.
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Fucking oath! Gotta love the humourous photoshoppery!
As a side-benefit, my rep gets to drop another few points every time I post here. ;D
I'm just about tempted to stretch my image-editing arm! 8)
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While i'm not agreeing with this conspiracy theory I would say that just because the crippler crossface was used doesnt automatically make Benoit the killer. In fact it almost backs up the theory that they were killed by another wrestler, i mean cmon if they wanted to make it look like he really did it that'd be the way to go....
Wrestlers using other wrestlers move. Thats impossible, everyone knows wrestlers cant do other wrestlers move unless you steal their smackdown ;D
Is it wrong to laugh at those pictures? Am i a bad person?
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Is it wrong to laugh at those pictures? Am i a bad person?
No, not at all. Each individual "lol" entitles you to the receipt of one internets.
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I found these ones too
(http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y251/blk_ibanez/benoit.gif)
(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b114/bigwrxguy/come2daddy.jpg)
;D
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I guess the mourning period is over ???
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I found these ones too
(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b114/bigwrxguy/come2daddy.jpg)
;D
NO IT'S TOO SOON.
I laughed so hard at this I nearly vomited.
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(http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y251/blk_ibanez/benoit.gif)
Yay... animated ones! :laugh:
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I guess the mourning period is over ???
Carn Mick, it was funny when you were posting death related pics of Anna Nicole Smith ;)
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I'm probably the biggest fan of Benoit ever, and I found these pretty hilarious. Hehehe, it's funny coz its true. It doesn't change the person he was in the ring.
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I'm probably the biggest fan of Benoit ever, and I found these pretty hilarious. Hehehe, it's funny coz its true. It doesn't change the person he was in the ring.
you do realize wrestling isnt real dont you? He's not a "person" in the ring, he was an ACTOR....theres a difference.
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I guess the mourning period is over ???
Carn Mick, it was funny when you were posting death related pics of Anna Nicole Smith ;)
ha ha it doesn't bother me, I was the first to crack a joke but it upset someone so I removed it.
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I'm probably the biggest fan of Benoit ever, and I found these pretty hilarious. Hehehe, it's funny coz its true. It doesn't change the person he was in the ring.
you do realize wrestling isnt real dont you? He's not a "person" in the ring, he was an ACTOR....theres a difference.
what do you mean it's not real? are you serious? fuck
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OH my fucking god! How ignorant do you think I am? Of course I know it's fake you fucking retard. Doesn't mean I can't enjoy it. You realise that Arnold Schwarzenegger didn't really kill all those people in his films? Of course you do. So how is enjoying an action film any different from enjoying wrestling. It's essentially the same thing except one is live in front of an audience. And yes, I realise it's all predetermined and rehearsed beforehand but so is all the movies you watch and all the soapies that are on TV.
But what you don't understand is that alot of wrestlers do portray characters, known as gimmicks. Benoit was an exception to that rule. What he portrayed in the ring was close to who he was in real life. But of course, you would have known that if you actually watched wrestling, so therefore your arguement means nothing.
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You realise that Arnold Schwarzenegger didn't really kill all those people in his films?
He didn't? ... ... :'(
I thought Haydz did watch wrestling?
Anyway... It's a good thing (I guess) that you fans of Benoit aren't taking this to heart. I think the main purpose of them was to provoke a negative response. :P
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OH my fucking god! How ignorant do you think I am? Of course I know it's fake you fucking retard. Doesn't mean I can't enjoy it. You realise that Arnold Schwarzenegger didn't really kill all those people in his films? Of course you do. So how is enjoying an action film any different from enjoying wrestling. It's essentially the same thing except one is live in front of an audience. And yes, I realise it's all predetermined and rehearsed beforehand but so is all the movies you watch and all the soapies that are on TV.
But what you don't understand is that alot of wrestlers do portray characters, known as gimmicks. Benoit was an exception to that rule. What he portrayed in the ring was close to who he was in real life. But of course, you would have known that if you actually watched wrestling, so therefore your arguement means nothing.
fuck dude, settle down. All I was saying was that the character inside the ring isnt the same as the person outside it - I think the fact that he killed his family and then hung himself pretty much says all that.
You're far too touchy about your beloved Wrestling.
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OH my fucking god! How ignorant do you think I am? Of course I know it's fake you fucking retard. Doesn't mean I can't enjoy it. You realise that Arnold Schwarzenegger didn't really kill all those people in his films? Of course you do. So how is enjoying an action film any different from enjoying wrestling. It's essentially the same thing except one is live in front of an audience. And yes, I realise it's all predetermined and rehearsed beforehand but so is all the movies you watch and all the soapies that are on TV.
But what you don't understand is that alot of wrestlers do portray characters, known as gimmicks. Benoit was an exception to that rule. What he portrayed in the ring was close to who he was in real life. But of course, you would have known that if you actually watched wrestling, so therefore your arguement means nothing.
fuck dude, settle down. All I was saying was that the character inside the ring isnt the same as the person outside it - I think the fact that he killed his family and then hung himself pretty much says all that.
You're far too touchy about your beloved Wrestling.
by the looks of this picture he was the same at home as he was in the ring
(http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d64/micklahem/chrisbenoit5.jpg)
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I heard The Undertaker has been brought out of retirement because of his death.
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Lisa needs braces!
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From now on, the baby sleeps in the crib.
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From now on, the baby sleeps in the crib.
Grats on the -100
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-101 now. ;D
My goal of beating Mikey is actually looking realistic now. I wonder if some of the old regular smiters are still logging in by the hour? :D
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-101 now. ;D
My goal of beating Mikey is actually looking realistic now. I wonder if some of the old regular smiters are still logging in by the hour? :D
it's pathetic, why would you go out of you way to log on and smite someone, I don't know who they are but they must be fuckheads, and be even border than me.
either that or you really pissed someone off :blowup:
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OH my fucking god! How ignorant do you think I am? Of course I know it's fake you fucking retard. Doesn't mean I can't enjoy it. You realise that Arnold Schwarzenegger didn't really kill all those people in his films? Of course you do. So how is enjoying an action film any different from enjoying wrestling. It's essentially the same thing except one is live in front of an audience. And yes, I realise it's all predetermined and rehearsed beforehand but so is all the movies you watch and all the soapies that are on TV.
But what you don't understand is that alot of wrestlers do portray characters, known as gimmicks. Benoit was an exception to that rule. What he portrayed in the ring was close to who he was in real life. But of course, you would have known that if you actually watched wrestling, so therefore your arguement means nothing.
fuck dude, settle down. All I was saying was that the character inside the ring isnt the same as the person outside it - I think the fact that he killed his family and then hung himself pretty much says all that.
You're far too touchy about your beloved Wrestling.
Well let's just say the death of three people can be a touchy subject.
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-101 now. ;D
My goal of beating Mikey is actually looking realistic now. I wonder if some of the old regular smiters are still logging in by the hour? :D
it's pathetic, why would you go out of you way to log on and smite someone, I don't know who they are but they must be fuckheads, and be even border than me.
either that or you really pissed someone off :blowup:
I think I pissed off more than half of the forum, as well as those guys that log in once a year, but I'd imagine most of them are over it now. :D
Jamo: ... but would you mourn the death of three different people, not associated to wrestling or any sport/tv-show?
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Well if I knew them, then yes. That's a silly question man. Would you mourn about Mr and Mrs X and their kid from Alabama? No, cause you don't know them but if you did then you probably would.
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Would you mourn about Mr and Mrs X and their kid from Alabama? No, cause you don't know them but if you did then you probably would.
Exactly.
It's a shame Benoit and his family had to die, especially they way they did, but I don't think it's really something that should be taken to heart on the same scale as if your best friend or a personal family member died.
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Yeah, well, I'm one of those freaks that is passionate about his wrestling, especially technical wrestling, which is the style of both Benoit and Eddie. You should see my collection of tapes. ::)
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Hahaha... well I guess if you are that passionate, Chris is probably as close as family gets. :P
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And if you've read the "New Australian Metal Scene Documentary Film To Be Released" thread, Little Birdy seems to be as close as family gets for you ;D
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And if you've read the "New Australian Metal Scene Documentary Film To Be Released" thread, Little Birdy seems to be as close as family gets for you ;D
No... I'm not that sick... family doesn't get that "close" to me. ;) ;D
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WIN!
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Yeah, glad I found it again lol... my favourite one.
SHOOP DA WOOP!
Heres moar:
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again for emphasis!!!
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What the hell is the blue shit coming out of his mouth?
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What the hell is the blue shit coming out of his mouth?
LAZERZ
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What the hell is the blue shit coming out of his mouth?
LAZERZ
Lol... she is EFG.
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If people are interested I have two interesting interviews off YouTube. One from former WWE star Chris Jericho who was good friends with Benoit.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4EI12YYQi9k (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4EI12YYQi9k)
...and another one with Kevin Nash of TNA. This one shows you how those arsewipes at Fox News love to manipulate the media.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A7Nfr3KrMlM (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A7Nfr3KrMlM)
Make your opinion from this though.
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Jeez, some people are fuckholes. There's nothing worse than patronising, know-it-all news reporters whos only opinions and voice are right is theirs, who openly show it to the world.
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Im still mourning, but some of those pics were hilarious. :rofl: Some though :err: I think im still confused.... :-\
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How could you guys have forgotten this one?
(http://www.encyclopediadramatica.com/images/e/e9/Chris_Coffin.jpg)
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Lol, win!
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Lol, win!
lol....DIE NOW! and QUIETLY!
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Suppose that's what you get when you fuck around with your brain ...roids are bad m'kay.
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If only he was in IT, rather than entertainment... he'd be quite the hacker on steroids.
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If only he was in IT, rather than entertainment... he'd be quite the hacker on steroids.
fail... :P
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If only he was in IT, rather than entertainment... he'd be quite the hacker on steroids.
fail... :P
NO U!
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back on topic, out of curiosity I jumped on a few sites the other day to find out the autopsy results but can't seem to find fuck all...they always say we'll have to wait for the results but the never seem to come :hmm:
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There is no autopsy. :P
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If only he was in IT, rather than entertainment... he'd be quite the hacker on steroids.
fail... :P
Since when has anything by dparker been failworthy?? ???
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If only he was in IT, rather than entertainment... he'd be quite the hacker on steroids.
fail... :P
Since when has anything by dparker been failworthy?? ???
since when has anything by dparker been passworthy?? ??? ::)
and there has been another suggestion to why benoit did what he did. they suggest that the many concussions that he received could have attributed to his unusualbehavior.....plus the research is done by a company headed by the only Harvard college graduate WWE wrestler Christopher Nowinski!
http://www.cnn.com/2007/HEALTH/conditions/09/05/wrestler.dead.ap/index.html (http://www.cnn.com/2007/HEALTH/conditions/09/05/wrestler.dead.ap/index.html)
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If only he was in IT, rather than entertainment... he'd be quite the hacker on steroids.
fail... :P
Since when has anything by dparker been failworthy?? ???
since when has anything by dparker been passworthy?? ??? ::)
and there has been another suggestion to why benoit did what he did. they suggest that the many concussions that he received could have attributed to his unusualbehavior.....plus the research is done by a company headed by the only Harvard college graduate WWE wrestler Christopher Nowinski!
http://www.cnn.com/2007/HEALTH/conditions/09/05/wrestler.dead.ap/index.html (http://www.cnn.com/2007/HEALTH/conditions/09/05/wrestler.dead.ap/index.html)
winworthy*
Great to know I have some groupies already. :P
Hmm... perhaps it's suspicious if the WWE graduate guy is saying that... could be an excuse to cover up the truth of some kind of murder-suicide... or just full blown roid rage. :D
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If only he was in IT, rather than entertainment... he'd be quite the hacker on steroids.
fail... :P
Since when has anything by dparker been failworthy?? ???
since when has anything by dparker been passworthy?? ??? ::)
and there has been another suggestion to why benoit did what he did. they suggest that the many concussions that he received could have attributed to his unusualbehavior.....plus the research is done by a company headed by the only Harvard college graduate WWE wrestler Christopher Nowinski!
http://www.cnn.com/2007/HEALTH/conditions/09/05/wrestler.dead.ap/index.html (http://www.cnn.com/2007/HEALTH/conditions/09/05/wrestler.dead.ap/index.html)
i think he was a natural nutter to begin with and in addition to the concussions, steroid abuse and pressure he just snapped.
speaking of wrasslin, I watched RAW today cause they were going to tell us who Mr McMahon's bastard son is and what do you know it was a FUCKING REPEAT. How dare you! I NEED TO KNOW!
PS Cm punk won his title back hurrraaah fuck you john morrison
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you'll most likely find out who mcmahon's son is at unforgiven, they won't announce something likek that on normal televised shows. and as far as i know they havent revealed it as of yet.
my money is on edge as he should be coming back soon, and it would be kinda fitting for him to be mcmahon's son!
even though i like cm punk, i dont think he should have got the title as of yet, because there really isnt anyone on the ecw roster to go up against until rvd comes back........no wait he was traded to raw....so yeah there isnt anyone there who will make a good rivalry there.they need someone reasonably big to go over and give them some more choices and depth.... :hmm:
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lol
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speaking of wrasslin, I watched RAW today cause they were going to tell us who Mr McMahon's bastard son is and what do you know it was a FUCKING REPEAT. How dare you! I NEED TO KNOW!
RAW has always been a repeat on Saturday mornings as long as I can remember.
PS Cm punk won his title back hurrraaah fuck you john morrison
Back??? Didn't know he had ever won a title since ROH.
you'll most likely find out who mcmahon's son is at unforgiven, they won't announce something likek that on normal televised shows. and as far as i know they havent revealed it as of yet.
my money is on edge as he should be coming back soon, and it would be kinda fitting for him to be mcmahon's son!
The original plan was actually to have Mr Kennedy as Vinny's son, but since the huge drug scandal that happened about a week ago, with 15 signed WWE wrestlers involved, Kennedy being one of them, that idea is out the window. Obviously the wrestler who will get that spot will be someone that they want as a monster heal for the next couple if years. Edge would definitely be a viable candidate although I think it would be hilarious if it ended up being Triple H so that it turns out that Vinny's grand-daughter is inbred.
even though i like cm punk, i dont think he should have got the title as of yet, because there really isnt anyone on the ecw roster to go up against until rvd comes back........no wait he was traded to raw....so yeah there isnt anyone there who will make a good rivalry there.they need someone reasonably big to go over and give them some more choices and depth.... :hmm:
RVD has actually bailed from the WWE so he wouldn't be a contender for the ECW title anyway. As far as I've heard, unfortunately, is that the CM Punk run is only gonna be transitional. Which is fucked because he is the first ECW champ since RVD to really represent an old-school ECW style. I expect within a month for it to either go back to Morrison or maybe even Burke.
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I found it interesting that CM Punk is straight edge
(http://www.kupywrestlingwallpapers.info/wallpapers/cm_punk_preview.jpg)
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The original plan was actually to have Mr Kennedy as Vinny's son
..and you know this how...?
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I found it interesting that CM Punk is straight edge
(http://www.kupywrestlingwallpapers.info/wallpapers/cm_punk_preview.jpg)
Yeah he's more hardcore than you. Even has the greatest straight-edge-vegan-core band of all time as his theme song- Killswitch Engage :laugh: ::)
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hornswoggle??.....................hornswoggle??
my lord this isnt even scraping the bottom of the barrel!
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Hornswaggle is Vinnie's son. :rofl: :rofl:
And you thought it couldn't get any worse.
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Hornswaggle is Vinnie's son. :rofl: :rofl:
And you thought it couldn't get any worse.
Was my prediction right, jamie?
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SHuttttuuuuuppppppp!
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You're fucking kidding me.. right?!?
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Hornswaggle is Vinnie's son. :rofl: :rofl:
And you thought it couldn't get any worse.
Are you serious? :err:
Oh man, this proves that the WWE have gone to shit ... !
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wwe has been struggling for a while now especially since they started relying on cena to carry the company, but they still have some decent things going. the mvp/matt hardy feud is going pretty well, i kind of like the orton/cena angle they are doing, im hoping that theyll start having a batista/mysterio feud after unforgiven which shall be awesome.
they need to settle down and properly plan things again. too many injuries, drug scandals and deaths just continue to mess the whole thing up.
but hey at least they are using their talent a lot better than tna! so much potential, so much relience on legends rather than new talent (see WCW).
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Personally I think neither company is using their talent to their full potential. All 3 WWE brands really have only one feud that's even worth watching. RAW is actually become the McMahon show once again, and the WWE title has just become a monotonous viewing of Cena shitting on every other contender. Snore!
Smackdown has probably the most interesting feud with MVP vs. Matt Hardy but they are also Tag Champs so it makes there interaction a kinda hate/pretend to like relationship.
ECW has a more old school feud going on, which I really like, between Kevin Thorn and Stevie Richards. This feud is not about who is sleeping with who, or some bizarre storyline where they are brothers, or they are former tag team partners who are jealous of the others better abilities. It's a feud between who is the better man in the ring which is what wrestling all comes down to. Kevin Thorn being a more dominant and strength wrestler dominates the entire match but somehow Richards always pulls out the win. It's great!
TNA has the talent pool but are just not using it to its full ability and are focusing more on the former WWE stars, especially Kurt Angle who a month ago possessed all the titles, rather than their own creations like AJ Styles, Samoa Joe, AMW, LAX and the X-Division.
If you want my opinion I think Vincent Kennedy McMahon has single handedly destroyed the wrestling business and made it into more of a joke then it was before. He has made it impossible for anyone to compete with his multi-billion dollar company or even just to make money off of it.
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Personally I think neither company is using their talent to their full potential. All 3 WWE brands really have only one feud that's even worth watching. RAW is actually become the McMahon show once again, and the WWE title has just become a monotonous viewing of Cena shitting on every other contender. Snore!
Smackdown has probably the most interesting feud with MVP vs. Matt Hardy but they are also Tag Champs so it makes there interaction a kinda hate/pretend to like relationship.
ECW has a more old school feud going on, which I really like, between Kevin Thorn and Stevie Richards. This feud is not about who is sleeping with who, or some bizarre storyline where they are brothers, or they are former tag team partners who are jealous of the others better abilities. It's a feud between who is the better man in the ring which is what wrestling all comes down to. Kevin Thorn being a more dominant and strength wrestler dominates the entire match but somehow Richards always pulls out the win. It's great!
TNA has the talent pool but are just not using it to its full ability and are focusing more on the former WWE stars, especially Kurt Angle who a month ago possessed all the titles, rather than their own creations like AJ Styles, Samoa Joe, AMW, LAX and the X-Division.
If you want my opinion I think Vincent Kennedy McMahon has single handedly destroyed the wrestling business and made it into more of a joke then it was before. He has made it impossible for anyone to compete with his multi-billion dollar company or even just to make money off of it.
Ok no more shitting on Cena- afterall he's still got the title. :raspberry: Goddamn i so rock though- didnt watch wrestling for months on end, watch one episode and tell jamie that the midget leprechaun is vinces son- woah maybe im like writing the scripts for wwe in my sleep and dont realise it. Hehehehe babblecrap :eyebrows: :err:
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Hornswaggle is Vinnie's son. :rofl: :rofl:
And you thought it couldn't get any worse.
Are you serious? :err:
Oh man, this proves that the WWE have gone to shit ... !
Who the FUCK is Hornswaggle.
The other day I was thinking to myself, all the people going up for the massive titles, with Triple H runnin' round and the Undertaker coming back etc. what are they going to do, start a storyline which sees them fighting for nothing against no one? Those titles were MADE for big names like Taker and Hunter 'Earst 'Elmsley, and this whole McMahon storyline "oh he's dead, no he's not, oh he hates his family, no he wants to make it up to them, oh he's got an illegitimate son" - this shit is absolutely pathetic and it makes me cringe just watching it.
Oh let's bring back the early 90s/80s wrestlers. OOOOhhh and DX. God just anything! these storylines are pathetic and wrestling is going to shit.
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The other day I was thinking to myself, all the people going up for the massive titles, with Triple H runnin' round and the Undertaker coming back etc. what are they going to do, start a storyline which sees them fighting for nothing against no one? Those titles were MADE for big names like Taker and Hunter 'Earst 'Elmsley, and this whole McMahon storyline "oh he's dead, no he's not, oh he hates his family, no he wants to make it up to them, oh he's got an illegitimate son" - this shit is absolutely pathetic and it makes me cringe just watching it.
I havent watched wrestling in over ten years, and it sounds as though nothing has changed. These are the exact same story lines they had ages ago.
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Hornswaggle is Vinnie's son. :rofl: :rofl:
And you thought it couldn't get any worse.
Are you serious? :err:
Oh man, this proves that the WWE have gone to shit ... !
Who the FUCK is Hornswaggle.
The other day I was thinking to myself, all the people going up for the massive titles, with Triple H runnin' round and the Undertaker coming back etc. what are they going to do, start a storyline which sees them fighting for nothing against no one? Those titles were MADE for big names like Taker and Hunter 'Earst 'Elmsley, and this whole McMahon storyline "oh he's dead, no he's not, oh he hates his family, no he wants to make it up to them, oh he's got an illegitimate son" - this shit is absolutely pathetic and it makes me cringe just watching it.
Oh let's bring back the early 90s/80s wrestlers. OOOOhhh and DX. God just anything! these storylines are pathetic and wrestling is going to shit.
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this little fucker is Hornswoggle
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You gonna have to put a really big picture up, cause my eyesights not that good.
Make it 600x800 hahaha
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If you want my opinion I think Vincent Kennedy McMahon has single handedly destroyed the wrestling business and made it into more of a joke then it was before. He has made it impossible for anyone to compete with his multi-billion dollar company or even just to make money off of it.
Jamie, I agree with every fibre of my being.
He really should not have bought WCW and ECW out. Sure, both companies were having financial troubles, but back in the day the competition between the "Big Three" was what bore all the interesting feuds and angles. With WCW out of the picture, and ECW as a division of the WWE, it amounts to lackluster and utterly risible storylines (Hornswoggle being McMahon's "bastard son" being a prime example) because there is really no major competition out there (bar TNA).
Naturally, the wrestling industry being scrutinized after the Benoit incident doesn't help matters either ...
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i dont think the buying out wcw and ecw is the problem, its having 3 seperate brands within the one company thats the problem. ever since raw and smackdown became two seperate entities things started to decline. now all brands rely on 4 or so major stars (HHH, HBK, Cena, Taker, Batista, Rey) and about 8 lower status stars (Hardy's, Mr Kennedy.......Kennedy, Umaga, Carlito), who all continually fight each other over and over again. plus with only one night a week to develop the storylines it always seems that they have too many stories but not enough time. add to that, little rotation of the rosters, being only done after wrestlemania, means that we end up getting stuck with the same ol' stories or rivalries again.
almost everytime they have done a cross brand rivalry its been pretty damn entertaining, with the exception to the lashey/umaga and goldberg/lesnar type feuds.
back when it was still good, we had the rock, mankind, austin, taker, HHH, angle all feudining with each other, but they had time to develop the feuds, plus they had a bigger pool of second tier superstars to choose from to make up the rest of the shows.
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If you want my opinion I think Vincent Kennedy McMahon has single handedly destroyed the wrestling business and made it into more of a joke then it was before. He has made it impossible for anyone to compete with his multi-billion dollar company or even just to make money off of it.
Jamie, I agree with every fibre of my being.
He really should not have bought WCW and ECW out. Sure, both companies were having financial troubles, but back in the day the competition between the "Big Three" was what bore all the interesting feuds and angles. With WCW out of the picture, and ECW as a division of the WWE, it amounts to lackluster and utterly risible storylines (Hornswoggle being McMahon's "bastard son" being a prime example) because there is really no major competition out there (bar TNA).
Naturally, the wrestling industry being scrutinized after the Benoit incident doesn't help matters either ...
Fuck yeah. ECW/WCW/WWF all completely seperate shows. WCW used to be on TNT. WWF was on the sports channel and Fox8, and ECW was barely ever shown.
Now it's all combined and it sucks. There used to be no connection between these shows, no stars going to another show and it being publicised.
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bit of an update
THE doctor to professional wrestler Chris Benoit, who killed himself, his wife and seven-year-old son in 2007, has been sent to jail for 10 years.
Phil Austin pleaded guilty to 175 counts of illegally prescribing painkillers and other drugs to patients.
Prosecutors in Georgia said at least two of Austin?s patients died as a result of the lax prescriptions.
Benoit, known as The Rabid Wolverine or The Canadian Crippler, was a star of wrestling associations WCW, ECW and WWE.
In June 2007, he was found to have hanged himself after murdering his wife and son.
Investigators suspect Benoit?s behaviour was linked to the presence of the drug hydrocone and an elevated level of testosterone, evidence of treatment for steroid abuse.
While Austin often prescribed steroids for Benoit, authorities couldn?t say whether the drug played a definitive role in his death.
One of Austin?s patients died of an overdose of hydrocone and other drugs prescribed by Austin.
The other died of an overdose of prescription medication.
?I take full responsibility,? Austin told the judge, according to The Associated Press.
?I am sorry I hurt so many lives. I was thinking that I was looking after my patients.''
http://www.news.com.au/story/0,27574,25472976-401,00.html (http://www.news.com.au/story/0,27574,25472976-401,00.html)
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2 years on and it's still hilarious.
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2 years on and it's still hilarious.
Wow, the way you laugh at the murder of an innocent family is so impressive.
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2 years on and it's still hilarious.
Wow, the way you laugh at the murder of an innocent family is so impressive.
dont question him... he is the epitome of cool.
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2 years on and it's still hilarious.
Wow, the way you laugh at the murder of an innocent family is so impressive.
You listen to Gwar and you take this guy seriously? You and Mago need to lighten the fuck up :'(
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2 years on and it's still hilarious.
Wow, the way you laugh at the murder of an innocent family is so impressive.
You listen to Gwar and you take this guy seriously? You and Mago need to lighten the fuck up :'(
there's a line... and he consistently crosses it. I should know better though...
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Yeah, but he crosses it.. with comic results!