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Title: conspiracy theories
Post by: DRONED on July 02, 2010, 06:22:42 AM
does anyone have any good conspiracy theories on here. i work with a complete weirdo and hes obsessed with them.

i had a 3 hour conversation with him toady about how the Atom smasher thing in europe is actualy a teleportation device!!!!

any others?
Title: Re: conspiracy theories
Post by: ironguardian on July 02, 2010, 06:29:06 AM
i had a 3 hour conversation with him toady about how the Atom smasher thing in europe is actualy a teleportation device!!!!

Now that would be cool. I've not looked into teleportation lately, but last I heard they'd managed to "teleport" a small laser beam.

Conspiracy theories can be great fun to read about, even talk about... as long as you can work out whether the person telling you about it is serious or not.
Title: Re: conspiracy theories
Post by: DRONED on July 02, 2010, 06:38:37 AM
some people are that diluted that they think they are telling the truth tho.
Title: Re: conspiracy theories
Post by: ironguardian on July 02, 2010, 06:42:19 AM
some people are that diluted that they think they are telling the truth tho.

Yeah. While most of the theories are easily debunked, there are always a few which we might never really know about.... until MythBusters do an episode on them. I recently saw the episode they did about various theories around the moon landing.
Title: Re: conspiracy theories
Post by: hatefueled on July 02, 2010, 08:43:03 AM
ooh i wrote one in a drunken state once:
 

Okay. There's this chick who works for NASA.

she looks after the monkeys there.

Names one 'God' because she's religious,

The monkey is a pregnant female.

NASA says they want to see what space does to pregnancy or something and sends the monkey into space...

but,

the shuttle drifts into a black hole

the hole takes her to an alternate universe that's empty and it multiplies her intelligence by hundreds n thousands and awakens that other percentage of the brain that we apparently don't use.

so to kill time, the monkey decides to make a planet ! clicks her fingers.. *BANG*

then populates it with animals, and makes monkeys the highest species. in her image.

but the bang that was her making the planet sets off evolution

and the monkeys evolve into people. and these people invent religion. And she saw that it was bad.

so to straighten em out the monkey, God, sends her baby, 'Jesus' to tell them to go away n leave the monkeys as rulers of the planet but Jesus evolves and is brainwashed into religion

then the people kill Jesus the monkey boy for being too good at their religion

that pisses monkey off , She punches a hole in the wall and leaves.

then the people decide to explore space n send a monkey who drifts into a black hole that monkey god made when she punched the wall in anger over the people...

a monkey called god.
Title: Re: conspiracy theories
Post by: Grim on July 02, 2010, 04:30:23 PM
One of my mates told another mate he heard the Australian government was planning to blow the cap off the the volcano in South Australia. He hates the government so of course he believed it outright. A few weeks later he nearly got into a punch-up at the pub because he told another guy who refused to believe him.

Zeitgeist - The Movie is the best I've seen, a little bit hippy in places but it makes sense. Money is debt and debt is money.
Title: Re: conspiracy theories
Post by: Manny on July 02, 2010, 05:23:50 PM
Now that would be cool. I've not looked into teleportation lately, but last I heard they'd managed to "teleport" a small laser beam.
Check out the Philadelphia Experiment.

Some of these conspiracy theory videos present some good cases....
Title: Re: conspiracy theories
Post by: Necron on July 02, 2010, 05:33:09 PM
Conspiracy Theories are Bullshit!

(http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_RdqUIvhN4jo/SmhlzZaw3cI/AAAAAAAADl0/lxK9GIqsGHs/s320/penn75.jpg)
Title: Re: conspiracy theories
Post by: DISASTER666 on July 02, 2010, 07:36:50 PM
Check out Robert Anton Wilson on You tube. Or check out his books 'Cosmic Trigger 1,2,and 3'
He melted my brain.
Title: Re: conspiracy theories
Post by: dparker on July 02, 2010, 08:20:21 PM
Conspiracy Theories are Bullshit!

(http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_RdqUIvhN4jo/SmhlzZaw3cI/AAAAAAAADl0/lxK9GIqsGHs/s320/penn75.jpg)

Best. Show. Ever.
Title: Re: conspiracy theories
Post by: goat on July 02, 2010, 10:14:21 PM
does anyone have any good conspiracy theories on here. i work with a complete weirdo and hes obsessed with them.

i had a 3 hour conversation with him toady about how the Atom smasher thing in europe is actualy a teleportation device!!!!

any others?

i have been reading about TP'ion here and there for years. Im not sure about the Atom smasher being that but, whether true or not, they reckon thry have done succesful trials with matter.

How fuckn awesome would it be eh?


ooh i wrote one in a drunken state once:
 

Okay. There's this chick who works for NASA.

she looks after the monkeys there.

Names one 'God' because she's religious,

The monkey is a pregnant female.

NASA says they want to see what space does to pregnancy or something and sends the monkey into space...

but,

the shuttle drifts into a black hole

the hole takes her to an alternate universe that's empty and it multiplies her intelligence by hundreds n thousands and awakens that other percentage of the brain that we apparently don't use.

so to kill time, the monkey decides to make a planet ! clicks her fingers.. *BANG*

then populates it with animals, and makes monkeys the highest species. in her image.

but the bang that was her making the planet sets off evolution

and the monkeys evolve into people. and these people invent religion. And she saw that it was bad.

so to straighten em out the monkey, God, sends her baby, 'Jesus' to tell them to go away n leave the monkeys as rulers of the planet but Jesus evolves and is brainwashed into religion

then the people kill Jesus the monkey boy for being too good at their religion

that pisses monkey off , She punches a hole in the wall and leaves.

then the people decide to explore space n send a monkey who drifts into a black hole that monkey god made when she punched the wall in anger over the people...

a monkey called god.


hahaha, hey thats pretty cool. true or not its a damn good story.

Its a theory none the less, cant prove it wrong, cant prove it right.

Kinda like the bible

Title: Re: conspiracy theories
Post by: DRONED on July 02, 2010, 11:02:18 PM
i like the one about the fact that there is no flight numbers for the plains that hit the world trade center and there is no mention of any names of the people that would have been on the plains on the memorial walls at ground zero.
Title: Re: conspiracy theories
Post by: Alone on July 02, 2010, 11:18:28 PM
ok here we go

- we're living in the 1700's since the supposed birth of christ (300 years' worth of historical forgery on the books)
- Islam was a heretical version of christianity which is why muslims and christians do not see eye to eye historically - each trying to distance themselves from the other
- 9/11, pearl harbour, kennedy assasination, etc are inside jobs
- the government is trying to kill you vial fluridation, microwaves, soy, decaf, etc etc
- UFOs are real and there is a secret conflict between world governments and aliens
- there is a secret nuclear war going on using small-scale devices "suitcase bombs", the bali bombing being one of them
- chemtrails
- NWO - the government is trying to kill you
- Port Arthur was black ops to enforce gun control in Australia
- lazer pointers were banned not because they were a danger to planes but because 1000 individuals pointing a laser onto a politician in public could actually burn them
- nasa did go to the moon, but had to fake al of the publicity because of what they saw there
- cold fusion, low-power warm fusion, etc being suppressed
- jews are not an ethnicity in that the entire thing is made up in the middle ages
- there is no such thing as al-quida
- osama bin laden has been dead since late 2001
CIA is responsible for the situation in Iran right now
-etc etc

Title: Re: conspiracy theories
Post by: Ingasm on July 03, 2010, 02:09:53 AM
UFOs are real.
Title: Re: conspiracy theories
Post by: hatefueled on July 03, 2010, 02:20:23 AM
and llamas are aliens imported from a planet in another universe who's sun was about to die so the FBI brought em here.
So are frogs and axolotls.
Title: Re: conspiracy theories
Post by: ironguardian on July 03, 2010, 02:23:51 AM
Turns out Dr. Who is actually a documentary, not a sci-fi show.
Title: Re: conspiracy theories
Post by: DamoESP on July 03, 2010, 02:29:28 AM
Start here first: http://www.theflatearthsociety.org/forum/index.php?topic=1324.0

then visit the rest of their forum: http://www.theflatearthsociety.org/forum/

Knock yourself out...many lolz to be had
Title: Re: conspiracy theories
Post by: PremierMaelstrom on July 03, 2010, 02:56:07 AM
The Egyptian pyramids are actually resonant 'tractor beams' built by aliens to keep the Moon (originally a piece of the Earth) in its syncronos orbit of our planet ...
 :-X
Title: Re: conspiracy theories
Post by: schist on July 03, 2010, 03:07:13 AM
... and Tupac ain't dead!!
Title: Re: conspiracy theories
Post by: Melkor on July 03, 2010, 03:16:11 AM
Osama bin Laden is alive and well in Iran, he's being hidden by the Revolutionary Guard. (Possible, some of his children have been spotted there).

The current war in Afghanistan is an attempt to destabilize Russia by flooding their streets with cheap heroin. (What some Russians believe, probably not true but opium production has skyrocketed since the US invaded and even President Karzias own brother is supposedly a major opium exporter).

The Afghan national army and police regularly rape little boys and foreign soldiers who report about this to their superiors are ordered to look the other way. (True, returning canadian soldiers talked to the media but because they are our "allies" no one does shit about it).

Operation Gladius - a secret NATO organisation set up in the 1950's to resist soviet occupation if war broke out and the massive Red Army invaded Western Europe. In Italy they got out of control and started to carry out terrorist attacks against their own people to influence public opinion against the Italian Communist party. True story - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gladio_in_Italy
Title: Re: conspiracy theories
Post by: hatefueled on July 03, 2010, 03:26:19 AM
jack the ripper was an alien
Title: Re: conspiracy theories
Post by: Melkor on July 03, 2010, 03:32:24 AM
Jack the ripper was a member of the royal family, the palace derailed any investigation that got close to the truth.
Title: Re: conspiracy theories
Post by: nihilist on July 03, 2010, 04:09:56 AM
There is indeed a theory that Jack was royalty, but it's bullshit. Not that I'm claiming I know which of the 10+ plausible suspects was him, just that the Royals theory is pretty much the worst. Except maybe Patricia Cornwell's theory she spent millions on fabricating.
Title: Re: conspiracy theories
Post by: Nosaj on July 03, 2010, 04:26:44 AM
1. John Lennon was really murdered by the U.S. Government. Lennon was involved in politics and he was making a few senators nervous.
 Mark Chapman was drugged or Hypnotised to carry out the assasination. Chapman was then to be made the scape goat.

2. Elvis is still alive. He is a high ranking military officer.
Title: Re: conspiracy theories
Post by: Grim on July 03, 2010, 04:46:56 AM
Global warming?


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tggZDfWwLjA&feature=related
Title: Re: conspiracy theories
Post by: Grim on July 03, 2010, 04:49:06 AM
And what a fucking joke the Yk2 bug was.... Planes dropping out of the sky... computers self destructing... the economy collapsing.... No words can express how disappointed I was...
Title: Re: conspiracy theories
Post by: chancellorisgod on July 03, 2010, 05:06:07 AM
Denver International Airport

http://www.anomalies-unlimited.com/Denver_Airport.html

VERY interesting read, discovered this ages ago and only just remembered.
Title: Re: conspiracy theories
Post by: Grim on July 03, 2010, 05:39:25 AM
Fuck man, I'm reading the link you posted. Crazy.
Title: Re: conspiracy theories
Post by: chancellorisgod on July 03, 2010, 05:46:44 AM
Hahaha oh yeah man, it'll probably take a couple of reads too cos it's a real mindfuck trying to figure out what the hell is going on!
Title: Re: conspiracy theories
Post by: chancellorisgod on July 03, 2010, 06:44:37 AM
Watch these two video's also - summarises the web site pretty well. Gets particularly creepy when they start detailing the underground tunnels with the sprinkler systems akin to the Nazi gas chambers.

*grabs his tin foil hat*

Denver International Airport Conspiracy - Part 1 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JjjIy1DO0gs&feature=channel)
Denver International Airport Conspiracy - Part 2 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gL2vnxVIH_0&feature=channel)
Title: Re: conspiracy theories
Post by: Grim on July 03, 2010, 07:03:16 AM
Oh oh...

There's a lot of symbolism that's for sure, but there's also a lot of theories based on little proof.
It's a very interesting read though. I'm glad you posted it.

Some of the artwork is bizarre. The pic of the Nazi (Skeletor) with the sword in the pigeon's ass is kind of disturbing.
Title: Re: conspiracy theories
Post by: Grim on July 03, 2010, 07:33:38 AM
The Uncreation will be releasing an EP titled STIMULUS RESPONSE THEORY very soon. I think these lyrics are relevant to the nature of the topic. The song is called Branded At Birth.

Branded At Birth

Groomed for plutocracy   
A target from conception
A life dependence machine
A hyper-real prison of slaves to economy

Commercialised every aspect of our lives 
Exploitation enterprise
For addiction is value to powers unseen

Sheep learn to speak against those who've long oppressed you
Open your eyes and see our culture is pre-made
All your thoughts and all our values
Fuelled by their Neuro-machines

Globalized
Standardised     
De-sensitised.
Demoralise corrupt in order to rule

Corporate propaganda, saturation in extremes
Our thought tracks will align
Retail youth educated in thought factories

Time is all gone! You were sold a life of leisure
By merchants of desire and fear
Someone stole your mind and made all your choices for you
Life a commercial dream

Masters of reality conditioning our perception
Mass psychosis legalised, our freedom is dead and nothing is real
Open your eyes! Your governments lie! Activists rise!
These predators hide inside our minds!!!
Title: Re: conspiracy theories
Post by: schist on July 03, 2010, 11:58:03 AM
That Danny Devito is actually taller than 5'0" (152cm)
Title: Re: conspiracy theories
Post by: chancellorisgod on July 03, 2010, 12:06:49 PM
That Danny Devito is actually taller than 5'0" (152cm)

Danny DeVito's troll feet travel the world!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G_BqpO5ll-A
Title: Re: conspiracy theories
Post by: Grim on July 03, 2010, 02:21:32 PM
The Ninja Turtles are to desensitise to the reptilians that will come out the earth soon. Some scientoligists actually believe this.

The Bush family are shape shifting reptilians.

McDonald's is value for money.
Title: Re: conspiracy theories
Post by: goat on July 03, 2010, 04:26:48 PM
Hungry Jacks is better than MacDonalds.

actually i think that might be true.

Title: Re: conspiracy theories
Post by: Nosaj on July 03, 2010, 10:27:07 PM


This is why I think the John Lennon murder is a coverup by the U.S. government.
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The U.S. vs. John Lennon is a 2006 documentary film about English musician  John Lennon's transformation from a member of The Beatles to a rallying anti-war  activist striving for world peace during the late 1960s and early 1970s. The film also details the attempts by the United States government under President Richard Nixon to silence him.
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The film explores the political activism that Lennon became strongly involved in with the Beatles and after the band ended.

John Lennon is established as being a potential political threat to the American government, and therefore much of the film covers the theme of 'silencing' him and other popular figures that became involved in anti-war activism. Throughout the film the audience can see both sides of the situation: the audience sees the protests and events Lennon and Yoko Ono organised, such as the famous "Give Peace A Chance" rally and concepts such as bagism and bed peace.

We also see the increasing fear experienced by the US government and CIA. This build-up of paranoia and fear for control led to the eventual deportation notice sent to John Lennon's house, informing him that 'his temporary stay in the USA was now over'. The film debunks and exposes the somewhat bizarre behaviour of the CIA and police department over John Lennon and other contemporary figures' behaviour, referring also to different modern issues like drug abuse.

The film features a montage of various different mediums. There are videos of performances of songs and interviews of Lennon at the time, recordings of Yoko Ono both present and from the late 1960s and 1970s, as well as a basic story structure of retelling the story of John Lennon's attempts to spread a message of peace amongst the USA and, on a wider scale, the entire Western world during the Vietnam War.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_U.S._vs._John_Lennon
Title: Re: conspiracy theories
Post by: MalignantlyGrotesque on July 04, 2010, 09:13:52 AM
UFOs are real.

No shit.

People need to watch the documentaries:

UFO: 50 Years Of Denial & I know What I Saw

Both are easy to find to watch online or download. They provide the best cases for the existence of UFO's.
Title: Re: conspiracy theories
Post by: Grim on July 04, 2010, 05:41:03 PM
I'm not convinced on UFOs but I think it's completely possible. I definitely believe that there is other life in space.

Google is helping the US government to take over the world http://masterplanthemovie.com/website.swf
Title: Re: conspiracy theories
Post by: Grim on July 10, 2010, 02:27:15 AM
This is made even more evident:

Google's Wi-Fi Spying: What Were They Thinking?
Jeff Bertolucci, PC World
May 16, 2010 8:52 am
Artwork: Chip Taylor"Don't be evil" has gone all 1984 on us. Or so it seems after Google revealed Friday that its Street View cars, in addition to snapping photos of the world's roadways, have also been collecting sensitive personal information from unencrypted wireless networks.

It was no secret that Google's cars had already been collecting publicly broadcast SSID information (Wi-Fi network names) and MAC addresses (unique numbers for devices like Wi-Fi routers). But this techie data, which is used for location-based services such as Google Maps, didn't include any "payload data," or personal information sent over the network.

Or so "Big Brother" Google claimed on April 27. But yesterday the search behemoth 'fessed up to a security gaffe of Orwellian proportions. Due to a piece of code written in 2006 by an engineer for an experimental Wi-Fi project, Google had in fact been collecting those private bits after all:

"But it's now clear that we have been mistakenly collecting samples of payload data from open (i.e. non-password-protected) WiFi networks, even though we never used that data in any Google products," wrote Alan Eustace, Google senior VP, engineering & research.

Wow. That's freaky and strange. And not in a good way, either.

Google was smart to open up about the spying incident. An attempted cover-up would have proven disastrous, particularly when numerous consumer and government agencies worldwide have criticized the search company's seemingly insatiable appetite for personal information, a quest that critics say infringes on individual privacy rights.

There's little doubt the Wi-Fi spying incident won't fade away quietly. In fact, the Electronic Frontiers Association (EFA) and Australia Privacy Foundation (APF) have joined forces to question potential security mishaps by Google's Street View, according to a report by Computerworld Australia.

The latest Street View controversy is sweet fodder for conspiracy theorists. As someone said to me responding to the news: "Imagine, Google driving around in vans, taking pictures of EVERYTHING, and gobbling up Wi-Fi signals like some new-age techno CIA." Sweet conspiracy fodder, indeed.

If nothing else, Google's security gaffe should serve as a wake-up call to clueless folk who've yet to encrypt their home Wi-Fi networks. Do you get it now? Anybody may be snooping on you.


But I guess most people would rather not THINK about it.....
 
Title: Re: conspiracy theories
Post by: Nosaj on July 10, 2010, 10:46:50 PM
The weather is controlled by U.S government military satelites. By using infra red or microwave radiation to heat up a small area of the ocean. Therefore altering wind and ocean currents and dramatically changing weather patterns. EG: Maintain the high pressure area in the Great Southern Bite. This is the cause of the really hot summer temperatures in Perth.

Increasing cold fronts in Winter to cause severe storms or keeping cold fronts at bay in winter to prevent rain.
Title: Re: conspiracy theories
Post by: Alone on July 12, 2010, 12:59:28 AM
The weather is controlled by U.S government military satelites. By using infra red or microwave radiation to heat up a small area of the ocean. Therefore altering wind and ocean currents and dramatically changing weather patterns. EG: Maintain the high pressure area in the Great Southern Bite. This is the cause of the really hot summer temperatures in Perth.

Increasing cold fronts in Winter to cause severe storms or keeping cold fronts at bay in winter to prevent rain.

See this sort of stuff is rednecks being paranoid. I find that a lot of conspiracy theory stuff has an American patrotic undertone and can greately vary in intelligence. Out of all of that there are some great stories however like the Vela incident: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vela_Incident or Phantom Time: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phantom_time.
Title: Re: conspiracy theories
Post by: Alone on July 16, 2010, 10:05:32 PM
not ufo, rocket launch, probably from Russia:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9de44GEIPQw

You can even see where a stage separates.
Title: Re: conspiracy theories
Post by: Grim on July 17, 2010, 06:20:45 AM
This site is amazing http://www.orwelltoday.com/stagedevents.shtml
Title: Re: conspiracy theories
Post by: Nosaj on August 29, 2010, 10:27:57 PM
All fast food giants. KFC,Maccas, HJ's and Dominoes add drugs into their food. Making us addicted.
Simultaniously T.V and Radio adverts emmit subliminal hypnotic signals that react with the said drugs laced in the take away foods. Causing us to buy more and more things. As well as being under constant control of the government. As the new digital radios and wide screen T.V.'s are fitted with survelance cameras and mic's. Recording our every move. 

Title: Re: conspiracy theories
Post by: Ingasm on August 30, 2010, 12:32:07 AM
or, humans are greedy, lazy and materialistic by nature.
Title: Re: conspiracy theories
Post by: goat on August 30, 2010, 02:45:50 AM
The way if figure it, if youre never gonna find out for sure then fuck it, may as well just get on with things.

Like impulse buying, sigining up for massive loans, getting hooked on MSG (flavour inhancer 621,623, hydrolised protein, yeast extract, etc,etc,etc.) paying ridiculous taxes, putting up with repeat offenders, census, not being able to defend yourself till its too late, getting less on the dole and pension than refugees and asylum seekers, you know, the usual stuff. :-\
Title: Re: conspiracy theories
Post by: Melkor on August 30, 2010, 03:55:02 AM
The bread used in fast food is packed with sugar so will naturally register as tasting better to the brain. Simple tricks to bring in the easily addicted.
Title: Re: conspiracy theories
Post by: Mago_Haydz on August 30, 2010, 04:21:19 AM
The bread used in fast food is packed with sugar so will naturally register as tasting better to the brain. Simple tricks to bring in the easily addicted.

KFC buns are the best
Title: Re: conspiracy theories
Post by: goat on August 30, 2010, 04:29:22 AM
The bread used in fast food is packed with sugar so will naturally register as tasting better to the brain. Simple tricks to bring in the easily addicted.

KFC buns are the best

dude that fuckn avatar is gold.
Title: Re: conspiracy theories
Post by: World Maggot on August 30, 2010, 05:04:57 AM
Ground rainbows:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_c6HsiixFS8

Fuckin metallic oxide salts in our oxygen supply. Fuckin governments.
Title: Re: conspiracy theories
Post by: Ingasm on August 30, 2010, 05:13:08 AM
I literally lold.
Title: Re: conspiracy theories
Post by: chantian_deanie on August 30, 2010, 05:15:39 AM
- Stephen King killed John Lennon.

- WWII was staged. It never really happened. The Illuminati employed elaborate special effects, stage magic, and phony journalism to scare the world into pacifism.

- The doomed Franklin Expedition was sent to the Arctic not only to find the Northwest Passage, but to secretly investigate UFO sightings that had been reported since the 1700s. The men were captured, experimented upon, and eaten by giant aliens.

- The 1939 War of the Worlds radio broadcoast was a psychological warfare study funded by C.D. Jackson on behalf of the Rockefeller Foundation, designed to find out how Americans would react to an enemy invasion. Funny... in a trailer for his mockumentary F is for Fake, Orson Welles did say the WoW broadcast had "secret sponsors".

- Aspartame, flouride, genetically modified foods, and vaccines are used specifically to keep us sick and open to suggestion, and/or as part of a secret depopulation plan designed by the world's elite.
Title: Re: conspiracy theories
Post by: Ingasm on August 30, 2010, 05:18:05 AM
All of them are more plausible than ground rainbows
Title: Re: conspiracy theories
Post by: goat on August 30, 2010, 05:18:41 AM
- Aspartame, flouride, genetically modified foods, and vaccines are used specifically to keep us sick and open to suggestion, and/or as part of a secret depopulation plan designed by the world's elite.

that one i believe. why do they need to shove that shit in the food for?

Title: Re: conspiracy theories
Post by: Nosaj on August 30, 2010, 06:25:19 AM
Ground rainbows:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_c6HsiixFS8

Fuckin metallic oxide salts in our oxygen supply. Fuckin governments.
If it was a Queensland accent and not an American accent. I would say this video was done by Pauline Hanson. ;D
Title: Re: conspiracy theories
Post by: Nosaj on August 30, 2010, 06:38:59 AM
- Aspartame, flouride, genetically modified foods, and vaccines are used specifically to keep us sick and open to suggestion, and/or as part of a secret depopulation plan designed by the world's elite.

that one i believe. why do they need to shove that shit in the food for?


Yeah that one is a good one. There is lots of $$$$ in medicine.

It's that same reason that the Governments of the world have no intention whatsoever of ending the War on Drugs. Theres too much money to be made in it. Thats not a theory thats the truth.
Title: Re: conspiracy theories
Post by: Ingasm on August 30, 2010, 05:48:42 PM
What? Fuck off. If the US, for instance, stopped mandatory minimum sentences / jailing people for weed alone, the number of incarcerations would drop phenomenally. It costs a fuckload of money to keep that many people in jail while keeping the prisons up to standard...

It's a moral crusade, a somewhat foolhardy attempt to create societal change, and it guarantees votes from the right-leaning demographic.   

It's a moral crusade.
Title: Re: conspiracy theories
Post by: EvilElvis on August 30, 2010, 06:23:17 PM
http://www.infowars.com/
Title: Re: conspiracy theories
Post by: dparker on August 30, 2010, 07:26:43 PM
What? Fuck off. If the US, for instance, stopped mandatory minimum sentences / jailing people for weed alone, the number of incarcerations would drop phenomenally. It costs a fuckload of money to keep that many people in jail while keeping the prisons up to standard...

It's a moral crusade, a somewhat foolhardy attempt to create societal change, and it guarantees votes from the right-leaning demographic.   

It's a moral crusade.

Agreed... as typical of a stoner argument as it is, imagine if they produced and taxed weed in the same manner as cigarettes.
I figure it would be fairly inexpensive to produce, could be heavily taxed up to a price that still undercuts current street prices, and generate an absolute shitload of revenue.

Even though that would no doubt put an end to many drug dealer's careers, such a situation would also threaten or kill other industries, such as the alcohol industry.
Title: Re: conspiracy theories
Post by: Ingasm on August 30, 2010, 08:33:27 PM
If preposterous volumetric taxation hasn't killed alcohol, nothing will.

It takes 40 bucks to get tipsy, yet people are still out there smashing the pints back as much as ever!!
Title: Re: conspiracy theories
Post by: dparker on August 30, 2010, 09:15:57 PM
If preposterous volumetric taxation hasn't killed alcohol, nothing will.

It takes 40 bucks to get tipsy, yet people are still out there smashing the pints back as much as ever!!

Individual tolerance (and preference) aside, most people I know will find $40 dollars invested towards marijuana far, far better bang for the buck than alcohol... and not just in terms of the level of inebriation achieved, but the side-effects, both during and after (for example, the dreaded hangover). If marijuana was more readily available, legal, equally priced (or perhaps cheaper), and no longer "immoral", I certainly think it would steal away a decent chunk of recreational drinkers.

Then again, one can argue it would have no effect, because alcoholic drinks are just going to taste better while stoned. :P
Title: Re: conspiracy theories
Post by: Grim on August 30, 2010, 09:23:23 PM
What? Fuck off. If the US, for instance, stopped mandatory minimum sentences / jailing people for weed alone, the number of incarcerations would drop phenomenally. It costs a fuckload of money to keep that many people in jail while keeping the prisons up to standard...


A lot of US jails are privately operated. It's not really up to 'government' anymore. There will be an industry push (with large donations to government officials) to keep the laws as they are and possibly harsher. To stop mandatory minimum sentencing would be seen as being soft and the prison industry would be unhappy.

Sounds a little crazy but money has more influence in what the government does than any person does. Therefore the war on drugs will not end. There is too much money to be made. And if you can't beat join em.

Title: Re: conspiracy theories
Post by: Mago_Haydz on August 30, 2010, 09:38:35 PM

Then again, one can argue it would have no effect, because alcoholic drinks are just going to taste better while stoned. :P

I disagree. I cant drink nearly as much when Im stoned as to when Im not smoking. Everything else you said is bang on. $50 worth of weed will last the average smoker probably 8-10 sessions (without being stupid about it) as opposed to $50 worth of alcohol.... that MIGHT get you pissed twice if youre lucky.
Title: Re: conspiracy theories
Post by: chantian_deanie on August 30, 2010, 10:27:11 PM
I agree with marijuana legalization and I don't even smoke it anymore. It fucks a lot of people over and makes them waste their lives but no more than alcohol and at least stoners don't get violent (often). Also if weed were legalized and regulated I wouldn't have access to it since I was 15. Was a shitload easier for me to get weed when I was a kid than beer.
Title: Re: conspiracy theories
Post by: dparker on August 30, 2010, 10:50:14 PM
I agree with marijuana legalization and I don't even smoke it anymore. It fucks a lot of people over and makes them waste their lives but no more than alcohol and at least stoners don't get violent (often). Also if weed were legalized and regulated I wouldn't have access to it since I was 15. Was a shitload easier for me to get weed when I was a kid than beer.

Yeah, it's a little thing called personal responsibility that many are afraid of taking. It's not the fault of alcohol/weed/speed for you being an asshole/failure, it's you. That being said though, each drug does have its effects, but it's still the individual choosing to take them, and the individual acting further.
Title: Re: conspiracy theories
Post by: goat on August 30, 2010, 11:38:02 PM
yeah i dont smoke it, but do agree it fucks people around in the long run. Thing is they dont see it like someone the at doesnt smoke does.
Title: Re: conspiracy theories
Post by: Damo on August 30, 2010, 11:45:12 PM
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does anyone have any good conspiracy theories on here. i work with a complete weirdo and hes obsessed with them.

i had a 3 hour conversation with him toady about how the Atom smasher thing in europe is actualy a teleportation device!!!!

any others?
Look no further than Youtube and the awesome Jesse Ventura.
Title: Re: conspiracy theories
Post by: nihilist on August 31, 2010, 01:35:53 AM
If weed was legalised it would be poor quality and way more expensive, so please, please don't legalise it.
Title: Re: conspiracy theories
Post by: chantian_deanie on August 31, 2010, 06:46:12 AM
Yeah cos that's what happened in Amsterdam :P
Title: Re: conspiracy theories
Post by: Nosaj on August 31, 2010, 07:10:53 AM
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does anyone have any good conspiracy theories on here. i work with a complete weirdo and hes obsessed with them.

i had a 3 hour conversation with him toady about how the Atom smasher thing in europe is actualy a teleportation device!!!!

any others?
Look no further than Youtube and the awesome Jesse Ventura.
Or the book/movie 1984. Just read a review on it and the synopsis. http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0087803/
Title: Re: conspiracy theories
Post by: nihilist on August 31, 2010, 06:04:53 PM
Yeah cos that's what happened in Amsterdam :P

Different culture, different government.

It costs near on $16 for a pack of smokes these days, $50 for a carton of mildly decent beer. You think we wouldn't tax the absolute shit out of weed? Tax is the Australian way to deal with everything that's "bad" for us.
Title: Re: conspiracy theories
Post by: chantian_deanie on August 31, 2010, 09:25:58 PM
Of course we would tax the shit out of it but it would still be cheaper. Most of the cost now is basically danger pay. It's just a plant, not hard to grow it would be only slightly more expensive than buying tobacco for hydro and probably similar price to tobacco for bushies. Yeah cigarettes are expensive but $16 for a packet of joints would be a lot better value than $25 for a stick.
Title: Re: conspiracy theories
Post by: nihilist on August 31, 2010, 10:30:49 PM
Anyone buying anything less than an oz or a half at worst is a retard anyway.

I'd be interested to see how the price of alcohol changed during prohibition in the US, that would be a good comparison in relative terms.
Title: Re: conspiracy theories
Post by: goat on August 31, 2010, 11:35:33 PM
16 bucks for pack weederettes would get you fuck all, you'd get 5 in a pack at half the length of a ciggie.
oh yeah, and it would proly be 20% bud and the rest leaf and tip.

Nice, not.
some of us would still be making a fortune on the good shit.
Title: Re: conspiracy theories
Post by: chantian_deanie on September 01, 2010, 03:22:36 AM
Google was pretty all over the place since there was no official records of pricing during prohibition since alcohol sales were not regulated. Opinions seems to vary between alcohol being slightly more expensive on average during prohibition to alcohol being 700% more expensive. I saw a lot of sites saying around 300% more expensive.
Title: Re: conspiracy theories
Post by: Grim on October 28, 2010, 02:29:20 AM
Has anyone seen EndGame http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x-CrNlilZho

or

The Obama Deception http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eAaQNACwaLw

Thoughts?
Title: Re: conspiracy theories
Post by: EvilElvis on October 28, 2010, 03:19:14 AM
(http://bostonist.com/attachments/austinist_kerry/alex-jones-info-wars.jpg)
Title: Re: conspiracy theories
Post by: Mago_Haydz on October 28, 2010, 03:34:24 AM
Pretty similar to Metallica's snake logo...
(http://www.av1611.org/666/images/metal.jpg)
Title: Re: conspiracy theories
Post by: EvilElvis on October 28, 2010, 05:31:55 AM
Yar, it's the 'Don't Tread On Me' symbol that is associated with patriotism.
Title: Re: conspiracy theories
Post by: World Maggot on October 28, 2010, 08:24:59 PM

Metallica "borrowed" the snake logo from the Gadsen Flag

The Gadsen Flag is kind of a U.S. version of our Eureka Stockade/BLF flag (in that it came to represent internal colonies - or in Australia's case, colony)

Also, the Gadsen motto is Don't Tread On Me - another reference "borrowed" by Metallica



What's with writing borrowed in quotation marks? You make it sound like something sinister is going on.
Title: Re: conspiracy theories
Post by: nihilist on October 28, 2010, 10:43:57 PM
Oh it's sinister alright.

Sinisterly boring.