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Musician Connection / Re: Evolution Machine - Requiring bass player

« on: July 30, 2010, 07:45:44 AM »

Damn... sounds tempting, but I don't know if I'd be able to commit enough time in between work, two other bands, and possibly university soon. :/
I'll have to think about it, but either way, best of luck finding a replacement!

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The Frontline / Re: love

« on: July 28, 2010, 07:42:04 AM »

Also you are just plain a dumb ass.

Makes me lol.

Hahaha, can't beleive I didn't pick that gem up myself... even more surprising is that nihilist didn't take a stab.

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The Frontline / Re: love

« on: July 26, 2010, 09:58:41 AM »

Or just a very angry overcompensating young man, with a wardrobe full of Bintang wifebeaters?

You know... you're a dead ringer for this guy I know...

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The Frontline / Re: love

« on: July 26, 2010, 12:13:31 AM »

It's a mod.

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The Frontline / Re: Are you a bad enough dude to fight Jamey Jasta?

« on: July 24, 2010, 11:59:27 PM »

I would dispense of my lit cigar on his suit.

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General discussion / Re: Camera's eveywhere.

« on: July 16, 2010, 10:48:48 PM »

Ok Damo lets do it!
Nihilist on vox, I can do guitars, i can get a bassist if no one here wants to do it.
I got the recording gear.

Im only joking, unless you all wanna do it?

I'm a bassist... and a courier just dropped off my recording interface. How convenient.

Ironically, today...
http://www.news.com.au/national/new-speed-cameras-deliver-a-fast-buck/story-e6frfkwi-1225890292548

Notice the lack of any mention of safety.

Thoughts?

Hmm... all I could see in that article was numerous mentions of "$xxx million"... nothing about safety.

Macquarie Bank, dubbed "the millionaires' factory" because of the huge salaries paid to executives, is attempting to secure a cut of the bonanza by launching a $275 million takeover bid for Redflex, the company contracted by the State Government to operate the cameras.

It's nice to know the corporate fat cats are concerned for motorist safety too!

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General discussion / Re: Camera's eveywhere.

« on: July 16, 2010, 05:26:49 PM »

Thats it, Im writing a song about speed limits...

If it's not doom metal, it's not safe to listen to.

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General discussion / Re: Camera's eveywhere.

« on: July 15, 2010, 06:55:22 AM »

Best thing I ever did was fit a loud speaker and mic to tell these clowns exactly what they are. Yes, I own the roads 

Wow... nice idea... could be fun too. Probably illegal or something though, right?

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General discussion / Re: Camera's eveywhere.

« on: July 14, 2010, 11:53:01 PM »

Yeah, that's true... although some people will have the musics blasting too loud to hear it, and I've noticed some people undergo spastic subconscious reactions when they hear a horn or bell, that can make them do something more dangerous... can't win them all.
Like when I used to cycle around, and there'd be a pedestrian or slow-ass cyclist ahead... so I'd ring the bell to alert them that I am closing fast and likely to overtake. What do they do? Flip out and mindlessly jump straight in the way of where I was planning to go around them. Eventually I just stuck with the policy of not using my bell.

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General discussion / Re: Camera's eveywhere.

« on: July 14, 2010, 11:15:15 PM »

The longer this goes on, the dumber you're all getting.

... and the more useful, comic insight we get from you... so it levels out in the end.

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General discussion / Re: Camera's eveywhere.

« on: July 14, 2010, 10:30:46 PM »

woah, this got out of hand. Im on the road most of my working days now. I pretty much drive for a living and I see some fucking stupid things out there... far more stupid than my occasional 8-10km/h over the limit.

Yeah, basically in a similar position myself... I often work delivery/courier driving at nights.

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General discussion / Re: Camera's eveywhere.

« on: July 14, 2010, 10:29:43 PM »

No you break safely and slow down. The person behind you shouldn't crash into you because they will be travelling at a safe distance.

Yes... you can count on every around you to do the right thing at all time.
They should be at a safe traveling distance, but wont necessarily will be... when was the last time you drove on the roads? Even then, you're counting on their reaction speed, and their level of alertness. Is it not logical that the solution that relies on the least 3rd parties for your safety, is the safest solution?
Also, if someone is right next to you, and turning in to you, gentle braking probably isn't going to be quick enough, even though it will give the guy behind you more time to react.

I myself am not interested in changing anyone's opinion, or giving them the alternative views in which to facilitate that. I'm more interested in not getting hit by either reckless idiots, or people too blindly obedient to the laws to ever make an independent decision. Heck, I'd be far happier if less people had cars/licenses to begin with.

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General discussion / Re: Camera's eveywhere.

« on: July 14, 2010, 09:48:52 AM »

(We have) to cater for the lowest common denominator all the time. No wonder society is getting dumbed down and generally going down the shitter.

QFT.

That's exactly how it is though... those of us who are able/willing, denied for the protection of those who aren't.

In line with what Harlequin Forest said; We should be raising the bar at the licensing level to stop idiots from even being able to drive, rather than making the road rules so restrictive as to accommodate the inadequacies of aforementioned idiots.

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General discussion / Re: Camera's eveywhere.

« on: July 14, 2010, 07:59:49 AM »

Safe is not a quantifiable term.

QFT

Sometimes (I reckon anyway) speed limits are set as part of a revenue raising exercise. Put up a sign where it's very easy to 'speed' like  the intersection of Stock Rd and Winterfold Rd. The speed limit changes from 80 to 60, the sign is on a downward slope just as you go around the corner so all of a sudden you have to drop 20kms an hour with little warning. This is a very busy road with a lot of trucks. Almost every other intersection till you hit Rockingham in the south is 80 kms. Even northbound the the speed limit through most intersections is 70.

Agreed man... I used to drive down Stock Rd frequently for rehearsal with one of my old bands... always shitted me. After several intersections (closer to Freo) there are no speed signs what so ever. Tha fuck?


Also, here's an example of (imo, what is) justified speeding... and it happens all the time. You're on a two lane road, all cars traveling close to the speed limit. One car directly behind you, one right next to you in the other lane. The car right next to you starts drifting or changing in to your lane, somehow unaware of your presence. What do you do?
1. Do nothing, the car next to you slams in to you, and all three of you are in an accident.
2. Slam your brakes in hope that the car next to you wont hit you... the car behind you fucks you up.
3. Speed up quickly (break the law, omgz) to get ahead of the car next to you, so you can avoid a collision altogether.

Options 1 and 2 play by the book, and both involve you being fucked.
Option 3 breaks the sacred, arbitrary laws that blatantly dictate what is right and what is wrong, but result in you not being fucked.
But of course, according to the law, Option 3 is the irresponsible and unsafe choice. Yeah... makes sense.
I've had to take Option 3 countless times in my driving journeys... if I have to bear some kind of guilt for it, so fucking be it... at least I am still alive (and not a quadriplegic), with a working car.

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General discussion / Re: Camera's eveywhere.

« on: July 13, 2010, 07:40:51 AM »

True, but more often that not, driving slow (i.e. below the limit) appears to be a symptom of unskilled/unconfident drivers. Having a few of them driving around you keeps you exposed to a consistent risk of an accident... drivers that speed past you (especially when it's only 10-20kms above the limit), and hence away from you, are more of a risk to themselves if anything, than those they speed past (i.e. you), and the time frame in which they are a threat to your safety is far shorter. Speeding and recklessness, while definitely not mutually exclusive, aren't always the same thing. Not only that, not all speed limits for given roads can be unarguably justified. No one set of rules, or system of thought can be infallible.
Still, I'd say the risk of an accident is incalculable and pretty much the same for every second you are on the road, regardless of the legal speed limit, or the speed of the drivers around you. Like Damo said... the risk starts when you turn the key, not floor the accelerator. I myself have had more accidents involving other motorists when I haven't even been in a car.

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General discussion / Re: Camera's eveywhere.

« on: July 13, 2010, 06:03:39 AM »

IMO its not the speeding that's the problem around here, its the fucking slow as fuck, over cautious snails out there that are unconfident and shit scared when they are faced with any old easy decision on the road, like turning a corner. These people are more likey to, and do cause alot of accidents involving people trying to get from A to B a little quicker because of them.
The solution is not to slow down anymore for fuck sake, we are doing 50 in alot of places. if we go any slower, its back to pushies. The solution is to get the repeat offenders and dumbasses of the street.

I'm inclined to agree... these kinds of people cause most of the traffic choke and danger on the roads. The way I see it, if you aren't within 5kms of the speed limit, without a practical reason (such as bad weather, poor visibility, etc), you should get the hell off the road. As far as I know, it's an offense to drive 20kms under the posted speed limit without flashing your hazard lights, and ultimately planning to get off the road, yet it happens all the time, and I've never seen it enforced. In fact, I notice this THE MOST during those double-demerit long weekends... everyone drives slow and over cautiously, as if to make them appear incognito to any observing police officers.

The thing I notice with a lot of speeders, is they are generally adept and confident drivers, and they end up getting out of your way... they don't really put you at nearly as much risk as the slow, unconfident drivers who make unpredictable decisions without warning... constantly changing speeds, braking for no reason, changing lanes abruptly without indicating, or just plainly swerving between lanes because they aren't paying attention to the road. The only kind of "speeding" I've ever seen as a danger to me is tailgaters, but if they really wanted to speed, they'd just overtake.

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General discussion / Re: Camera's eveywhere.

« on: July 12, 2010, 06:36:00 AM »

The one at Roe hwy/Kalamunda Drive lights is not only a red light camera, but a speed camera too. Think about how cunty that is. If you get there and its just turned amber, you cant speed up to avoid the red light camera.... if you're real unlucky you will cop both.

I think the idea is you stop

If you get to the edge of an intersection and it goes amber, good luck stopping before you enter the intersection.

If that's the case surely you'd get through before it turns red without needing to speed

Not at some intersections, like that of Canning/Stirling I mentioned earlier... in fact, I did speed and still didn't make it. I've heard that it's the same for the intersection of Albany Hwy and Leach Hwy... the amber phase doesn't last long enough to let you cross.

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General discussion / Re: Camera's eveywhere.

« on: July 12, 2010, 12:14:38 AM »

The one at Roe hwy/Kalamunda Drive lights is not only a red light camera, but a speed camera too. Think about how cunty that is. If you get there and its just turned amber, you cant speed up to avoid the red light camera.... if you're real unlucky you will cop both.

I think the idea is you stop

If you get to the edge of an intersection and it goes amber, good luck stopping before you enter the intersection.

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General discussion / Re: Camera's eveywhere.

« on: July 11, 2010, 11:36:10 PM »

The one at Roe hwy/Kalamunda Drive lights is not only a red light camera, but a speed camera too. Think about how cunty that is. If you get there and its just turned amber, you cant speed up to avoid the red light camera.... if you're real unlucky you will cop both.

To my understanding, red light camera's sensors are only triggered when someone drives into the intersection while the light is already red. So these cameras don't take a photo every time the light changes, just when someone trips the electromagnetic sensor beneath the road. I looked into it a while ago, because I got "cuntified" through a few red light cameras in the period of a few days (the one on the corner of Stirling/Canning Hwy got me twice in one day, I swear the amber duration is no more than 1.5-2 seconds)... you know, when the light goes amber the exact second you cross into the intersection, but goes red long before you can reach the other side. Needless to say, no fines.

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Western Australia / Re: Warning.

« on: July 11, 2010, 10:44:52 AM »

You...the drummer for one of the most arrogant musicians in Perth....Dani Estrin of Voyager. Hahahahaha...your band,

Nah, he's just misunderstood

Yeah man, I traded CDs and shit with the guy... seemed pretty friendly and "non-arrogant" to me.

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Western Australia / Re: Who are the decent bands these days.

« on: July 09, 2010, 08:08:51 AM »

Damo? Attitude problems? Hahahaha...

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International / Re: Jorn Song For Ronnie James

« on: July 07, 2010, 10:03:03 PM »

Nice.

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International / Re: Nergal gets off!

« on: July 06, 2010, 09:37:14 PM »

I'm curious as to where everyone gained their negative perspective religion. Just seems like a cool thing to be anti religious. Holy Rollers to cool for the trend though.

Whether you believe it or not, I drew my own conclusions in regards to religion (and they aren't remotely influenced by the whole "being metal" charade, I've essentially held the same views for longer than I've been an active listener of music), and I probably had a bit of a head-start in the sense that my family didn't influence me religiously in any way. The earliest event I can recall that turned me off religion happened in year 5... I don't entirely remember what the class was masqueraded as, but basically it was a Christian "education" class, championed by the school chaplain, that took advantage of us kids' natural interest in Christmas/Easter/etc, to cram religious propaganda in to our minds. I found it extremely boring, confusing, and irrelevant to whatever I gave a crap about at that time, so I told my mother about this class, and she was outraged about the class, and had me withdrawn from it (this was at a public school, mind you).

Scripture they called it. You basically wrote that paragraph for me, so thanks for saving me time. Exact same story as me... only I was grade 4 and my parents wrote a letter so I didnt have to attend scripture because I found it so insanely boring and didnt believe a word of it. Then I got the option to go and play games on this crappy old Amstrad computer, go to the library or play basketball. Of course, given the choices I had, many kids followed suit and by the end of the year I had a whole posse shooting hoops.

Haha... yeah, I was given the option to use the school computers instead too. Hello, Wolfenstein 3D. I don't remember at the time why this information didn't leak and break the entire class to pieces, but the only students exempt from the class were myself, and a girl from one of the higher grades. Perhaps they were silencing us, because we discovered something better than religion, and they didn't want to lose their herd... kinda parallels to the 'ol suppression of science, back in the days. Or perhaps they were appeasing to the kids' senses by giving them free Easter eggs at each class.

But yeah, it is/was fucking rude to just put all the kids in that class, without alerting/asking parents first... whether they don't want their kids taught religion, or they want them taught a different one... the only people who should be making decisions for kids (until they can do so on their own), is their fucking parents.

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General discussion / Re: censoring

« on: July 06, 2010, 09:24:49 PM »

Get over it, James.

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WA Gigs / Re: Paramore

« on: July 06, 2010, 12:11:03 AM »

Masturbate?

... in the confessional.

doesn't really count as masturbation if you get the priest to do it 

Haha, that wasn't the plan! But I'm sure he'd be damn eager to participate... should throw some nuns in to the mix too.