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Transformers Yay or Nay?
« on: June 26, 2009, 02:46:21 AM »
I say yay just got back and i was very impressed (but i kind of expected it to be considering i saw the first 4 times at the movies :D) can't wait for a third

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Re: Transformers Yay or Nay?
« Reply #1 on: June 26, 2009, 02:53:55 AM »
Was ok. Pretty similar to the first in its delivery so wasn't as good from that point. The last battle scene dragged and got boring. Kind of hated the Wall-E looking decepticons and the stupid accents too.

But was still enjoyable.

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« Reply #2 on: June 26, 2009, 03:01:16 AM »
Was ok. Pretty similar to the first in its delivery so wasn't as good from that point. The last battle scene dragged and got boring. Kind of hated the Wall-E looking decepticons and the stupid accents too.

But was still enjoyable.

yeah too many wise-crackin robots but hopefully the third one will see Unicron come in to it then it will be epic, i loved that Soundwave has been bought into it though  :headbang:

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Re: Transformers Yay or Nay?
« Reply #3 on: June 26, 2009, 03:25:20 AM »
I thought it was better than the first thats for sure. Some of the bits dragged on, and some the "jokes" seemed very outta place, but I will never get tired of seeing slow motion Megan Fox :headbang:

Was a pretty good movie, but personally I liked T4 over this (Then again, I am more of a Terminiator Fan boy than a Transformer fan).

Though, I hope the rumours are true and we see Grimlock in a movie soon...he was the ownage :D
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Re: Transformers Yay or Nay?
« Reply #4 on: June 26, 2009, 06:33:43 AM »
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Re: Transformers Yay or Nay?
« Reply #5 on: June 29, 2009, 06:28:41 AM »
Saw it this afternoon. I actualy thought it was better than the first one. Yes Megan Fox is a hottie.

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Re: Transformers Yay or Nay?
« Reply #6 on: June 29, 2009, 04:56:47 PM »
I thought it was 'ok', but I didnt seem to care about it as much as the first.

Michael Bay kinda seemed more interested in filming the latest miltary hardware than putting together a better film.
Ill watch this one a few more times and probably buy the Bluray when it comes out, to add to my collection, but I think I still prefer part 1.

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Re: Transformers Yay or Nay?
« Reply #7 on: June 29, 2009, 08:18:54 PM »
thought it was cool.  I saw Terminator Salvation and Transformers 2 on the same arvo so I am a bit "robotted out".

The one thing about the Transformers Movie I can't get my head around is how unbelievably hot the main actress is. 

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Re: Transformers Yay or Nay?
« Reply #8 on: June 29, 2009, 08:41:16 PM »
thought it was cool.  I saw Terminator Salvation and Transformers 2 on the same arvo so I am a bit "robotted out".

The one thing about the Transformers Movie I can't get my head around is how unbelievably hot the main actress is. 

yeah the things we "ALL" would do to her also that decepti-slut is very hot too

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« Reply #9 on: June 29, 2009, 11:18:11 PM »
thought it was cool.  I saw Terminator Salvation and Transformers 2 on the same arvo so I am a bit "robotted out".

The one thing about the Transformers Movie I can't get my head around is how unbelievably hot the main actress is. 

yeah the things we "ALL" would do to her also that decepti-slut is very hot too

the film was ok, i cant stand michael bay films and it really felt like the guy was just slamming as much of everything you could get into the film expect for plot as if it was his final masterpiece. And the decepti-slut annoyed the shit out of me come on bay if your gonna have a blatant rip off of a terminator dont base it on the tx out of the third.

as for the film itself yeah probably give it a 5/10. Felt that Shia even though I hate him as an actor put more effort into his role then he did in the first and indiana jones and the crystalabortionskull. Megan fox was good because all she did was run around in slow motion and look fine. The action scenes where pretty fucking good.

Mostly a BLOW the fuck out of everything film really. :)  :thumbdown: for terrible love story in the middle of robot battles.

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Re: Transformers Yay or Nay?
« Reply #10 on: June 30, 2009, 12:47:35 AM »
Ive gotta agree with the whole 'snog in the middle of a battlefiled' bullshit we constantly have to see in big budget action films these days.
Im sure if a 6000ton machine made up of smaller transformers and bad attitude was walking my way, I wouldnt be choosing that moment to slow down time, stare into my wifes eyes and tell her I loved her. No, Id be running my mf'n ass off.

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« Reply #11 on: June 30, 2009, 01:51:01 AM »
Ive gotta agree with the whole 'snog in the middle of a battlefiled' bullshit we constantly have to see in big budget action films these days.
Im sure if a 6000ton machine made up of smaller transformers and bad attitude was walking my way, I wouldnt be choosing that moment to slow down time, stare into my wifes eyes and tell her I loved her. No, Id be running my mf'n ass off.

whatever happened to good old fashioned chivalry? :P
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Re: Transformers Yay or Nay?
« Reply #12 on: June 30, 2009, 03:00:59 AM »
Mostly a BLOW the fuck out of everything film really. :)  :thumbdown: for terrible love story in the middle of robot battles.
That's to be expected from a Michael Gay.. I mean, Bay film. Ruining potentially good movies with unnessary shit and changing things for the worse. I'm still annoyed enough from the first one to not be in that much of a rush to see this one.

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Re: Transformers Yay or Nay?
« Reply #13 on: June 30, 2009, 04:43:57 AM »
Mostly a BLOW the fuck out of everything film really. :)  :thumbdown: for terrible love story in the middle of robot battles.
That's to be expected from a Michael Gay.. I mean, Bay film. Ruining potentially good movies with unnessary shit and changing things for the worse. I'm still annoyed enough from the first one to not be in that much of a rush to see this one.

oh yeah and the soundtrack is a fucking joke.. linkin park must have just re-wrote the one from the first one for bay for this film.

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Re: Transformers Yay or Nay?
« Reply #14 on: June 30, 2009, 05:06:19 AM »
Mostly a BLOW the fuck out of everything film really. :)  :thumbdown: for terrible love story in the middle of robot battles.
That's to be expected from a Michael Gay.. I mean, Bay film. Ruining potentially good movies with unnessary shit and changing things for the worse. I'm still annoyed enough from the first one to not be in that much of a rush to see this one.

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« Reply #15 on: June 30, 2009, 06:51:48 AM »
Mostly a BLOW the fuck out of everything film really. :)  :thumbdown: for terrible love story in the middle of robot battles.
That's to be expected from a Michael Gay.. I mean, Bay film. Ruining potentially good movies with unnessary shit and changing things for the worse. I'm still annoyed enough from the first one to not be in that much of a rush to see this one.
Yeah well I am not impressed with he handled the Constructicons. Which happen to be my favourite from the Transformers saga.

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Re: Transformers Yay or Nay?
« Reply #16 on: June 30, 2009, 07:05:45 AM »

C'mon, the film wasnt that bad was it? :)

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Re: Transformers Yay or Nay?
« Reply #17 on: June 30, 2009, 07:19:19 AM »
Oh yeah. Megan fox is a hottie so is that other chick. If only I was a hugly successful millionare rock god. I'd be having a threesome with both those chicks by now. Trying my luck with the hotchick freeway as Vince Noir of would say.

Oh Isabel Lucas and Megan Fox doing a hot lesbian scene would have been good. 8)

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Re: Transformers Yay or Nay?
« Reply #18 on: June 30, 2009, 04:19:25 PM »
I wouldn't let those fucking toe thumbs anywhere near me. Freak of nature.

Btw, how come the title of this thread doesn't have a third option of "Gay"?
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« Reply #19 on: June 30, 2009, 07:10:53 PM »
You're all on crack.  It was fucking terrible.  All the Transformers sounded like ghetto rats plucked off a basketball court in Harlem.  The autobots barely even fought if you didn;t notice.  Humans did most of the work.  In fucking transformers, there is barely even ANY human interference.  Its about robots fucking destroying each other over energon and earth is their playground.  Shit gets destroyed.  The fight scenes were shot fast, blurred and shakey to cut down production costs and time since a lot let detail needs to go into a fast moving object.  Transformers barely transformed since thats hard to animate.  THe characters were bullshit devices for crap jokes- i.e. fuckhead latino guy (not Rod.) and sexy home and away chick (not complaining, liked that bit.)  but still decepticons aren;t human changeling capable.   Barack "Nicest Guy on Earth" Obama was suddenly some bad guy making shit choices on behalf of the world through some fucking stupid suit.  The tomb that lay hidden was remarkably easy to find.  Battles were too short.. NO FUCKING LASERS AT ALL!

If you like Transformers the cartoon at all... yeah well this fucking raped it.  If you've only heard that it was cool and you think you;d be cooler if you said you loved it as a kid, then yeah, i guess you'd like the movie, and perhaps if you were a brainless obese american NRA member you'd be keen as well.

Good Points -  Megan Fox and hot chicks everywhere, Fast cars, Odd good battle scene. , good cinematography - wide shots and landscapes were awesome.
Bad points -  script, plot, lame jokes, shit diaologue, crap characters, bad acting, voices were awful, mother and father scenes should be cut out of the movie.  American bullshit.

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Re: Transformers Yay or Nay?
« Reply #20 on: June 30, 2009, 07:21:01 PM »
Haha I really liked the mother/father scenes actually.

Everyone rips on Michael Bay, but he has some good films under his belt too (I personally though 'The Island' was awesome).

Lets be fair though - There arent too many directors who are going to get huge acclaim for taking on 'sensitive' topics like transformers - and if you think guys like Peter Jackson got nothing but praise for his Lord of the Rings efforts, guess again.

Some people take films way too seriously, when really, the only ones who should are the ones funding it.


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« Reply #21 on: June 30, 2009, 07:56:18 PM »


Some people take films way too seriously, when really, the only ones who should are the ones funding it.



though it could be argued that the people funding it are the ones paying to see it

not that I give care either way, haven't even seen the first one yet  :P
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« Reply #22 on: July 01, 2009, 02:16:08 AM »
I hated it, but I didn't like the first one so I wasn't surprised. Needed more robots, less humans. The action sequences were also really frustrating, I can't stand close up shaky cam. I mean as much as I hated the Star Wars prequels, the battle scenes were good because they zoomed out and showed the whole thing clearly. Also did anyone else notice how they dubbed in a swine flu joke in post production to make it more relevant.

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« Reply #23 on: July 01, 2009, 04:01:37 PM »
Jeeez, relax out you lot.  It is a MOVIE, sheer escapism and entertainment value only.

Movies allow you to forget about your worthless little lives for a bit - and God knows, your lives NEED forgetting - so they are more often outlandish, preposterous and really quite Silly.  SO WHAT?  A movie about giant sentient robots and you expect a Shakespeare Sonet?  What do you expect from a story base so utterly demented?  the Transformers Movies were always going to be big budget nonsense and you all knew it before you saw them, and Bay probably did the best he could with the material at hand, fuck knows I couldn't do better.

Lower your expectations and disappointment is harder to achieve.  I do it with YOU lot. 

 

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« Reply #24 on: July 01, 2009, 09:57:12 PM »
Jeeez, relax out you lot.  It is a MOVIE, sheer escapism and entertainment value only.

Movies allow you to forget about your worthless little lives for a bit - and God knows, your lives NEED forgetting - so they are more often outlandish, preposterous and really quite Silly.  SO WHAT?  A movie about giant sentient robots and you expect a Shakespeare Sonet?  What do you expect from a story base so utterly demented?  the Transformers Movies were always going to be big budget nonsense and you all knew it before you saw them, and Bay probably did the best he could with the material at hand, fuck knows I couldn't do better.

Lower your expectations and disappointment is harder to achieve.  I do it with YOU lot. 

You're missing the point. It's like if someone took your beloved Star Wars and remade it, but changed what everything looked like, added stupid storyline parts to it, unnecessary rubbish and gay romantic interludes.
Oh wait.. too late.  :err:

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« Reply #25 on: July 01, 2009, 10:00:39 PM »
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« Reply #26 on: July 02, 2009, 01:18:48 AM »
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« Reply #27 on: July 02, 2009, 06:19:43 AM »
Jeeez, relax out you lot.  It is a MOVIE, sheer escapism and entertainment value only.

Movies allow you to forget about your worthless little lives for a bit - and God knows, your lives NEED forgetting - so they are more often outlandish, preposterous and really quite Silly.  SO WHAT?  A movie about giant sentient robots and you expect a Shakespeare Sonet?  What do you expect from a story base so utterly demented?  the Transformers Movies were always going to be big budget nonsense and you all knew it before you saw them, and Bay probably did the best he could with the material at hand, fuck knows I couldn't do better.

Lower your expectations and disappointment is harder to achieve.  I do it with YOU lot. 

You're missing the point. It's like if someone took your beloved Star Wars and remade it, but changed what everything looked like, added stupid storyline parts to it, unnecessary rubbish and gay romantic interludes.
Oh wait.. too late.  :err:
Oh yes the Starwars Prequil. :eyebrows:

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« Reply #28 on: July 02, 2009, 10:55:49 PM »
Jeeez, relax out you lot.  It is a MOVIE, sheer escapism and entertainment value only.

Movies allow you to forget about your worthless little lives for a bit - and God knows, your lives NEED forgetting - so they are more often outlandish, preposterous and really quite Silly.  SO WHAT?  A movie about giant sentient robots and you expect a Shakespeare Sonet?  What do you expect from a story base so utterly demented?  the Transformers Movies were always going to be big budget nonsense and you all knew it before you saw them, and Bay probably did the best he could with the material at hand, fuck knows I couldn't do better.

Lower your expectations and disappointment is harder to achieve.  I do it with YOU lot. 

 

Thats not my point. It is entirely possible to have awesome big budget special effects, huge explosions and a good story with the occasional humour. Dark Knight, Terminator 2, Aliens, Iron Man, etc, are all good examples. My point is that this movie has nothing on them. I don't go into movies and compare them all with The Godfather, I compare them to movies of the same genre or director.

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« Reply #29 on: July 03, 2009, 06:25:33 AM »
Even Hitler wasn't too keen on TF2 either.
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« Reply #30 on: July 08, 2009, 01:11:37 AM »
You're all on crack.  It was fucking terrible.  All the Transformers sounded like ghetto rats plucked off a basketball court in Harlem.  The autobots barely even fought if you didn;t notice.  Humans did most of the work.  In fucking transformers, there is barely even ANY human interference.  Its about robots fucking destroying each other over energon and earth is their playground.  Shit gets destroyed.  The fight scenes were shot fast, blurred and shakey to cut down production costs and time since a lot let detail needs to go into a fast moving object.  Transformers barely transformed since thats hard to animate.  THe characters were bullshit devices for crap jokes- i.e. fuckhead latino guy (not Rod.) and sexy home and away chick (not complaining, liked that bit.)  but still decepticons aren;t human changeling capable.   Barack "Nicest Guy on Earth" Obama was suddenly some bad guy making shit choices on behalf of the world through some fucking stupid suit.  The tomb that lay hidden was remarkably easy to find.  Battles were too short.. NO FUCKING LASERS AT ALL!

If you like Transformers the cartoon at all... yeah well this fucking raped it.  If you've only heard that it was cool and you think you;d be cooler if you said you loved it as a kid, then yeah, i guess you'd like the movie, and perhaps if you were a brainless obese american NRA member you'd be keen as well.

Good Points -  Megan Fox and hot chicks everywhere, Fast cars, Odd good battle scene. , good cinematography - wide shots and landscapes were awesome.
Bad points -  script, plot, lame jokes, shit diaologue, crap characters, bad acting, voices were awful, mother and father scenes should be cut out of the movie.  American bullshit.

Michael Bay -  die screaming.

Haha, I'm not as full on as this, but am mostly on the same page.
I mean, don't get me wrong - I thought the movie was ok, and pretty impressive in many aspects.
But most of my problems are pointed out here ^^.

I'd like to add some things though, and I don't agree on all points (eg: I like the parental stuff, and couldn't care less about the "babes" - not what I care about when it comes to Transformers), and I don't want MB to die haha.

But yeah, wtf was with some of the plot/script work? So much of this newly imagined shit was/is stupid, and the "Transformer Heaven" scene was idiotic, mostly.

WAY too much human interference. Autobots weren't about enough. Sometimes it was way too hard to tell who was who.
And, there was almost too MUCH action, it was chaotic. And too much stuff was unexplained, and you're just expected to take it at face value.
But yeah, too many people, too much bullshit. And yeah, the human transformer was fuckin' dumb as.
Add to that, i HATE all the stupid little transformers. The real little ones. They're a stupid idea, and so many look stupid.
And fuck, the voices sucked on so many. WHY did those dudes look kinda like rats? man...

That'll do for now haha

But yeah, still didn't mind it.

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« Reply #31 on: July 08, 2009, 03:52:14 AM »
Haha I really liked the mother/father scenes actually.

Everyone rips on Michael Bay, but he has some good films under his belt too (I personally though 'The Island' was awesome).

Lets be fair though - There arent too many directors who are going to get huge acclaim for taking on 'sensitive' topics like transformers - and if you think guys like Peter Jackson got nothing but praise for his Lord of the Rings efforts, guess again.

Some people take films way too seriously, when really, the only ones who should are the ones funding it.



the rock and bad boys 2 are his best in my opinion but i see what everybody is talkin about with the way the script reads out he and speilberg are trying a little to hard to be "hip" and "with the times"

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« Reply #32 on: July 08, 2009, 04:06:00 AM »
Funny review I read somewhere...hahah worth a read.

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Are there honestly 46 new Transformers in the movie?

I have no ****ing clue. It's impossible to tell most of them apart except for Optimus and the Racist Twins (there's another yellow Autobot who I constantly thought was Bumblebee). There could be 46, or there could be 12. I honestly would believe 12 if someone had said that.

What is the status of the Transformers at the beginning of the film?

The Autobots have joined the military to hunt down the Decepticons. We're told the Decepticons are "doing things," but they appear to be hiding peacefully when the Autobots show up and brutally murder them.

What?

Yeah. The Decepticons aren't apparently doing anything, then the Autobots show up, the Decepticons run for their goddamn lives, and the Autobots hunt them down and brutally murder them. It's kind of weird.


Why is the U.S. military helping them?

Supposedly to help keep the Transformers a secret from the public. Although since the climax of the last film was a massive firefight involving 50-foot robots and took place over five miles of downtown Los Angeles and the beginning of this film wrecks several miles of Shanghai, China, they seem to be incredibly ****ty at their job.

How does the U.S. military help them?

Well, not at all, actually. They just kind of come along with guns and stuff, and act like they're going to help, but the Autobots do all the work.

Why is the U.S. military in this movie at all, then?

Because Michael Bay has a huge erection for jets and tanks and aircraft carriers and considers giant robots only a necessary evil for the film. At least 15 full minutes of the film's 150-minute run time is nothing but footage of jets and tanks and planes without any robots or actual action whatsoever.

How is Sam Witwicky dragged back into the fight?

Well, he finds a fragment of the Allspark shard. You know, the Allspark that he spent all last movie being told he shouldn't give to Megatron, but when he gave it to Megatron, it killed Megatron. That one. Anyways, the shard makes the Beef see symbols and act like more of an spaz than usual.

So the Decepticons want the shard? Why?

Uh... to bring Megatron back to life?

What?

That's what they said.

But the Allspark killed Megatron in the first movie.

Yes.

...and now it can also bring him back to life.

It's very powerful, this Allspark.

Uh-huh. So what's their plan to get it?

They send a small R/C car who talks like Joe Pesci in Casino to get it.

Shouldn't they have sent Starscream or somebody?

Look, there's another Allspark shard and get that one anyways, so it doesn't matter.

Well, then why do they give a **** about Sam?

The symbols. In his head. That the shard of the Allspark gave him.

They weren't in the other shard?

Apparently not.

So how do the Decepticons plan to get the symbols, I guess?

Well, the Decepticons have very cunningly created a hot chick robot who they enrolled in the same college and put in the same astronomy class as Sam. And they made her a huge slut.

Wait.

Waiting.

There's a slutty Decepticon?

Yeah, she's a real ho. The Decepticons apparently have an incredibly powerful slut-making program, because she has it down, man. Anyways--

Didn't Sam touch the shard and get the symbols stuck in his head on his first day of college?

Yes.

So the Decepticons made a slutty robot to attend his college and enrolled her in classes and put her in on-campus housing just in case Sam ended up being important at some point in the future?

Apparently. It was an elaborate plan, but it sure paid off.

How so?

Well, not at all. The slut-bot made out with him for a little bit then immediately tried to kill him, neither for any apparent motive or gain.

It sounds preposterous.

Doesn't matter, because the Decepticons use the shard piece they do have to resurrect Megatron! He's back! Ooo! Scary!

Why is this scary? All he wanted was the Allspark, and now it's gone.

...because he has a boss! He's called the Fallen, because he's so evil! He has an evil plan to use a machine on Earth to blow up the sun and make energon! Or something! It's not very clear.

Now you're just making **** up as you go along, aren't you?

Best not to think too much about it. Anyways, the symbols in the Beef's head are a map to where this machine exists, so the hunt is on and Sam shortly is captured by other, less slutty Decepticons in one of the many instances where Bumblebee inexplicably abandons the Beef so he can conveniently be in trouble.
Then a robot called the Doctor who speaks gibberish with a German accent shoves things up Shia's nose and gets the symbols.

That's that, then, right? The Decepticons win?

No! Because Optimus Prime saves Sam before they cut off his head, which has another treasure inside!

Really? What is that?

No one really bothers to explain this, actually. Suffice to say, the Decepticons continue to want Sam. Oh, then Optimus Prime fights three Decepticons at once and dies.

Where the hell were the other Autobots during this fight?

I don't know. They were with him before the fight, but then they disappear and show up right after he dies. But they appear sad about Optimus dying. Marginally. I mean, they don't get any screen time or dialogue to convey any feelings or anything, but there's some sad music playing for a little bit afterwards. I assume this means the robots that are off-screen are grieving.

Well, if one shard brought Megatron back to life, can't Sam just use his shard piece to resurrect Optimus?

Yes. He could.

...
...

Well?

He doesn't.

Why not?

I'm not sure exactly.

Then what the hell does he do?

He decides get those symbols that were in his head translated to figure out what the Fallen's up to.

Which Autobot does the translating?

Err... none of them. Actually, it's John Turturro.

What. The ****.

Yeah, since he was laid off from his super-secret government agent job, he now works in a NY deli and runs a super-popular Transformers conspiracy theory website. Like ya do.

And why couldn't an Autobot translate these symbols?

Because Bumblebee is mute and the Racist Twins are poor black robots from the slums of Cybertron who never learned how to read. It's a sad commentary on Cybertronian society. Like The Wire, actually.

Where the hell are the other Autobots?

I don't know. Away. They seem to be unable to be reached. They're probably grieving about Optimnus still. Clearly, John Turturro is the reasonable solution here.

So Turturro translates the symbols.

No, that would be silly. He does, in an incredibly bizarre series of connect-the-dots, lead them to Jetfire, an elderly and deceased Transformers whose corpse is hanging out in the Air & Space Museum.

What good is he dead?!

Ah! Remember the shard? Sam uses it to bring Jetfire back to life!

Not Optimus?

No! This way, Sam can get the symbols translated... so he can, er... find the ancient machine... that can, uh... possibly bring Optimus back to life.

You have to ****ing be kidding me.

Moving on! Jetfire teleports everyone to Egypt, including some of the missing Autobots --

Wait, what? Teleports?

Yes, teleports.

Transformers don't teleport.

Jetfire does.

But -- wait a second, he's a ****ing jet. He could fly everybody to Egypt, right? And that would make perfect sense for both the character and the franchise!

Well, I guess so. But he chooses not to. The point is Jetfire teleports them all to Egypt where he explains that there used to be 7 or 8 Primes, and they traveled around the galaxy blowing up suns for energon. But they never did it on planets with life. Well, they had set the machine up on Earth and not noticed all the life running around, and one of the Primes just said **** it, let's do it anyways. This was evil, so they called that Prime the Fallen and beat the **** out of him although he escaped.

Okay...

So that other mysterious reason that the Decepticons wanted Sam's brain? It's because it contains some very vague clues about the Matrix of Leacdership, which is the device that turns on the sun-exploding machine. The Fallen needs the Matrix to blow up the sun and get his Energon.

Hold on. That's what the Matrix of Leadership does in the movie?

Yes. Works the sun-exploding machine.

I'm fuzzy on how "Leadership" covers that.

I didn't name it. But it does sound a little nicer than "Matrix of Blowing Up the Goddamn Sun." If I may continue, in order to protect the Earth, the 6-7 other Prime hid the Matrix on Earth and made a tomb with their own bodies. Isn't that cool?

...
...

No. No it is not. If they wanted to protect Earth, why did they leave the Matrix on the planet? They're a space-faring race, they could have hid it anywhere in galaxy! Second of all, what the **** does making a tomb of their own bodies do? Shouldn't they have stayed alive to protect the Matrix? Or finish off the Fallen? Or just not die and leave Earth and the entire Transformer race in jeopardy?

Uh...

And why hide the Matrix at all? Don't they need Energon to survive? Didn't they say they go to other lifeless planets? These idiot Primes just doomed their whole species for no ****ing reason whatsoever! No wonder the Decepticons are so pissed.

...ahem. Eventually, Sam and crew find the Matrix, which instantly crumbles into dust. Sam puts the dust in a sock because he thinks it will bring Optimus back to life.

Grr.

What follows is the most spectacular part of the movie, as Sam and Mikaela try to run the several miles back to the military camp during a massive Decepticon attack where the military has dropped Optimus Prime's corpse.

Why is that awesome? They could drive back in one of the Autobots and be there in a minute or two.

They don't do that.

What?

They walk.

Of course they do. And I assume the Autobots just mysteriously disappear again until a second before a Decepticon is about to kill Sam.

Yes. Exactly.

I am already incredibly sick of this movie, and I'm just typing questions about it. Sam resurrects Optimus, Optimus kills the Fallen, end of story, right?

Pretty close. Sam dies, though.

Really?

Yeah, for a little while. But then the Transformers in heaven send him back because he still has work to do.

**** you.

I'm serious.

**** you. There's no way.

It's true. The 6-7 Primes are there in the clouds like Mufasa's head in The Lion King, and tell Sam he's awesome and he needs to live again so he can bring Optimus back to life.

I may be ill.

Then Jetfire appears out of nowhere and rips out his own heart right in front of Optimus to give him his elderly old robot powers. This makes Optimus into a flying badass who defeats the Megatron and Starscream and the Fallen in a little less than two minutes. After the last 30 minutes of the movie have been nothing but explosions -- not all of which have any obvious causes -- it's a bit disappointing.

Anything else you want to add?

Well, only that although Sam jams the Matrix of Leadership into Optimus Prime's chest to resurrect him, a Decepticon takes it out like 10 seconds later and Optimus is fine. Just a little weird, is all.

Can you give me any reason I would want to see this film in theaters?

I can't answer every question, man.

BONUS ROUND!

So it's not as bad as ****ting your pants?

Marginally. I honestly had to make a pro and con list to figure it out.

Why on earth would anyone make a film about giant robots but have myriad scenes of some random douchebag's first day of college?

I don't have the faintest clue.

Could there have been more trite, less inspired song for Bumblebee to play when Sam says he's going to college than The Pointer Sisters' "I'm So Excited"?

No. No there couldn't.

Why can't Bumblebee talk, but the other Autobots can?

Because Bumblebee is retarded, but in a Sling Blade kind of a way. This explains how he kills the living **** out of a Decepticon later.

Why does Sam's mom buy and consume a pot brownie?

Well, Sam's mom was in a coma for the last 30+ years, which explains how she had never heard of marijuana, and why she didn't understand the consequences of eating it even after her husband specifically told her it was a pot brownie (Sam was unfortunately conceived and born during this period). A better question is why any college student in America would be selling pot brownies at an on-campus bake sale, let alone to a middle-aged woman.

A lot was made of how Shia the Beef's hand injury was written into the film. How was this done?

Well, sometimes Shia had a huge bandage on his hand, and sometimes he didn't.

That doesn't sound "written in" at all.

Well, no actual words are used to explain it. It might be more accurate to say it "shows up sometimes."

Why would a robot need to fart, pee, or vomit? And why would it need testicles?

Michael Bay does not understand what a robot is.

What is the point of the character of Sam's college roommate, and why the **** does he stay for the entirety of the movie?

I have no clue. He's not comedy relief, because that's covered by 90% of the Transformers themselves. He technically leads the Beef to John Turturro, but surely there could have been another way to do that. Besides, Turturro just leads them to Jetfire anyways. It's all extraneous.

Why can only a Prime kill the Fallen? Why can Jetfire teleport? Why can the Fallen wave a staff and make **** fly around? Why do actual cars and Autobots get sucked into Devastator's maw, but John Turturro and that other kid can run around?

Because... because **** YOU, that's why.

Can you explain Megan Fox's appeal?

Yes. She looks like a porn star and has the same acting talent as one, yet for some reason she makes mainstream movies. This tonal disconnect is what's so appealing about her.

If you had to pick a single scene that exemplifies Michael Bay's utter disdain for story and continuity, what would it be?

When five Decepticons sink to the bottom of the ocean to retrieve Megatron's corpse. A submarine tracks five "subjects" going down, and when they get there, one of the Decepticons is killed to give parts to Megatron. 5 -1 +1 = 5, right? No, because the sub somehow tracks "six" subjects coming up. Not only is this very basic math, this is the simplest of script errors. It could not possibly have been more than one page apart in the script. And yet Michael Bay either didn't care to notice or didn't give a ****. "Math? Math is for pus**es. My movies are about **** blowing up, man."

Could you sum up the film in one line of its dialogue?

"I am standing directly beneath the enemy's scrotum."

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Re: Transformers Yay or Nay?
« Reply #33 on: July 08, 2009, 05:09:11 AM »
Haha that's funny
And for the most part, pretty accurate in explaining all the fucked up aspects of the film.
And made me realise it sucked more than I wanted to believe.
It's still fun though.

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Re: Transformers Yay or Nay?
« Reply #34 on: July 14, 2009, 05:26:27 PM »
I think its pretty funny how some people are comparing the 'twins' to Jar Jar Binks: Car Car Binks  :laugh:

Yeah they seemed out of place/annoying and Devestator was made to look like a bitch  :'(
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Re: Transformers Yay or Nay?
« Reply #35 on: July 15, 2009, 01:38:02 AM »
I think its pretty funny when people read reviews and then quote them back to me when discussing the subject of said movie.


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« Reply #36 on: July 15, 2009, 01:42:19 AM »
Needed more Stan Bush :headbang:
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Re: Transformers Yay or Nay?
« Reply #37 on: July 15, 2009, 01:47:25 AM »
also I don't know if any one realized this but transformers is made for children. so obviously the plot and script are going to be a little dumbed down for kids to get into.

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« Reply #38 on: July 16, 2009, 06:52:26 AM »
also I don't know if any one realized this but transformers is made for children. so obviously the plot and script are going to be a little dumbed down for kids to get into.
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Re: Transformers Yay or Nay?
« Reply #39 on: July 16, 2009, 07:36:36 AM »
also I don't know if any one realized this but transformers is made for children. so obviously the plot and script are going to be a little dumbed down for kids to get into.
This post is the best post
If by the best you mean irrelevant then I agree.
The original movie was designed for kids, and it was actually a cartoon, and it still had a shitloads better plot and script than bay's rubbish excuse for it. Not to mention actually having an awesome soundtrack.
And the best part - it wasn't about humans. Instead was about the fucking characters the movie is named after.

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Re: Transformers Yay or Nay?
« Reply #40 on: July 16, 2009, 03:52:00 PM »
Needed more Stan Bush :headbang:

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Re: Transformers Yay or Nay?
« Reply #41 on: July 16, 2009, 04:14:16 PM »
Movies don't necessarily need to be dumbed down for kids, look at Pixar. A studio devoted entirely to kids animation, but all of their movies are filled with depth, and they don't resort to been immature to get laughs.

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« Reply #42 on: July 16, 2009, 06:44:19 PM »
Movies don't necessarily need to be dumbed down for kids, look at Pixar. A studio devoted entirely to kids animation, but all of their movies are filled with depth, and they don't resort to been immature to get laughs.

miyazaki.......
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« Reply #43 on: July 16, 2009, 07:07:34 PM »
Movies don't necessarily need to be dumbed down for kids, look at Pixar. A studio devoted entirely to kids animation, but all of their movies are filled with depth, and they don't resort to been immature to get laughs.

miyazaki.......

haha that reminds me i need to buy spirited away or whatever its called that shit is tripped out

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Re: Transformers Yay or Nay?
« Reply #44 on: July 16, 2009, 07:52:14 PM »
Movies don't necessarily need to be dumbed down for kids, look at Pixar. A studio devoted entirely to kids animation, but all of their movies are filled with depth, and they don't resort to been immature to get laughs.

some of the best movies I own are kids movies. Flushed Away and Ratatouille being 2 of the better ones.
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Re: Transformers Yay or Nay?
« Reply #45 on: July 16, 2009, 08:19:04 PM »
Movies don't necessarily need to be dumbed down for kids, look at Pixar. A studio devoted entirely to kids animation, but all of their movies are filled with depth, and they don't resort to been immature to get laughs.

miyazaki.......

haha that reminds me i need to buy spirited away or whatever its called that shit is tripped out

My Neighbour Tortoro, target audience is about 5 years old but it's a fucken awesome movie

maybe it's a hollywood/american thing to dumb down childrens movies, don't know why they do it but its fucken pathetic. Since when does being a child mean your stupid?
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« Reply #46 on: July 17, 2009, 02:38:29 AM »
Movies don't necessarily need to be dumbed down for kids, look at Pixar. A studio devoted entirely to kids animation, but all of their movies are filled with depth, and they don't resort to been immature to get laughs.

some of the best movies I own are kids movies. Flushed Away and Ratatouille being 2 of the better ones.
Monsters inc and the Incredibles are My favourites. 

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« Reply #47 on: July 17, 2009, 07:56:14 AM »
Needed more Stan Bush :headbang:

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The way that was quoted inferred that song was by Stan Bush but I think you'll find that was by Spectre General.
If it was just a random reference to another of the awesome songs on there then disregard.
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« Reply #48 on: July 17, 2009, 04:25:34 PM »
Needed more Stan Bush :headbang:

Nothin's gunna stand in our way .... not tonight  :headbang:

Best soundtrack ever
The way that was quoted inferred that song was by Stan Bush but I think you'll find that was by Spectre General.
If it was just a random reference to another of the awesome songs on there then disregard.
I've listened to it so many times and never get sick of it. :D

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