Author Topic: Yngwie ripping off Black Steel???  (Read 3600 times)

0 Members and 1 Guest are viewing this topic.

Offline Damo

  • WF Colonel
  • *****
  • Posts: 1022
  • Reputation: 14
    • View Profile
Yngwie ripping off Black Steel???
« on: September 01, 2009, 02:29:26 AM »
Now, I know Im perhaps too close to Black Steel to see this objectively, so I ask you if you think these two tracks have remarkably similar sections to them.

Additionally, Black Steel gave Ripper Owens a copy of their Battle Call EP when they supported Judas Priest a few years back. Now this Malmsteen song pops up with Ripper singing on it.

You be the judge...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o8xOex8hSic

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xPtDT6SAeCo
« Last Edit: September 01, 2009, 04:22:36 AM by Damo »

Offline Ormsby_Guitars

  • WF Colonel
  • *****
  • Posts: 3650
  • Reputation: 5
  • Gender: Male
  • Ormsby Guitars and Repairs
    • View Profile
    • www.ormsbyguitars.com
Re: Yngwie ripping off Black Steel???
« Reply #1 on: September 01, 2009, 02:50:03 AM »
You had Harro. You win.


Offline Manny

  • WF Colonel
  • *****
  • Posts: 3119
  • Reputation: 13
  • Gender: Male
  • Heavy Metal is the Law
    • View Profile
    • EVOLUTION MACHINE
Re: Yngwie ripping off Black Steel???
« Reply #2 on: September 01, 2009, 04:32:14 AM »
This has been out for a while now!
The difference...Malmsteen is king! ;)
Evolution Machine                      Noisy Pixels Photography

Offline Damo

  • WF Colonel
  • *****
  • Posts: 1022
  • Reputation: 14
    • View Profile
Re: Yngwie ripping off Black Steel???
« Reply #3 on: September 01, 2009, 05:06:59 AM »
Pfft...

Offline TnT

  • WF Supreme Commander
  • WF Colonel
  • *****
  • Posts: 5122
  • Reputation: 93
  • Gender: Male
    • View Profile
    • Western Front
Re: Yngwie ripping off Black Steel???
« Reply #4 on: September 01, 2009, 05:54:02 AM »
Definitely similar. I say sue 'em! Even if you don't win you'll get free publicity ;)
heh

Offline Stormrider

  • Global Moderator
  • WF Colonel
  • *****
  • Posts: 1922
  • Reputation: 29
  • Gender: Male
  • \m/ \m/
    • View Profile
    • Riot Squad
Re: Yngwie ripping off Black Steel???
« Reply #5 on: September 01, 2009, 03:45:27 PM »
WOW V.similar...I wish Yngwie would "fall off the edge of the world"

 :eyebrows:

RIOT SQUAD - The New Force in THRASH
https://www.facebook.com/Riot.Squad.aus

Offline Boeijen

  • WF Colonel
  • *****
  • Posts: 2287
  • Reputation: -48
  • Gender: Male
  • It's all great!
    • View Profile
    • Mark Boeijen profile
Re: Yngwie ripping off Black Steel???
« Reply #6 on: September 01, 2009, 03:50:51 PM »
It's very similar but maybe there's enough different notes to prevent him getting sued. :)

This happens all the time. There's only a limited number of notes, patterns, progressions you can do before writers start stumbling onto other people's written work.

Like that case where Men at Work are getting sued because they're song "Land Down Under" ( yeah danny green's intro song  :clap: ) has a similar melody in it that resembles the main theme from "Kookaburra sits in the old gum tree". Heard it on the radio - total rubbish, should be thrown out of court.
Musician

Offline Mago_Haydz

  • WF Colonel
  • *****
  • Posts: 7730
  • Reputation: 108
  • Gender: Male
    • View Profile
Re: Yngwie ripping off Black Steel???
« Reply #7 on: September 01, 2009, 03:51:31 PM »
I only listened to the first minute of each song so far, but man, that opening lick... almost identical. Sue the fuck out of them.
Mongeese like results

Offline DamoESP

  • WF Colonel
  • *****
  • Posts: 2568
  • Reputation: -124
  • Gender: Male
    • View Profile
Re: Yngwie ripping off Black Steel???
« Reply #8 on: September 01, 2009, 07:06:43 PM »
This happens all the time. For example:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=adukrwHY09s

There are about 30 or so videos in that series. Some of them are hit and miss, and some are spot on.


EDIT:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W9jln-cDoIo <-- In this one, around 1:10....have a listen..haha
« Last Edit: September 01, 2009, 07:09:17 PM by DamoESP »
Check out our band, Arkarion:
http://www.arkarion.com

Offline whammy

  • WF Colonel
  • *****
  • Posts: 3594
  • Reputation: -30
  • Gender: Male
    • View Profile
Re: Yngwie ripping off Black Steel???
« Reply #9 on: September 01, 2009, 07:10:49 PM »
...similar, but shit everything sounds "similar" most of the time for this genre... although BS kicked arse!
"Log off. That cookie shit makes me nervous!"

Offline PremierMaelstrom

  • WF Colonel
  • *****
  • Posts: 914
  • Reputation: 23
  • Gender: Male
  • PROGRESS
    • View Profile
    • NeXuS - just fucking metal
Re: Yngwie ripping off Black Steel???
« Reply #10 on: September 06, 2009, 12:54:52 AM »
"We have the Power, We Are One !"

</mattwilliams>
It all catches up on you when you slow down ...

Offline Nosaj

  • WF Colonel
  • *****
  • Posts: 4427
  • Reputation: -55
  • Gender: Male
    • View Profile
Re: Yngwie ripping off Black Steel???
« Reply #11 on: September 06, 2009, 10:56:19 PM »
Does sound very similar with the melody.
But gotta say Ripper sounds awesome next to Malmsteen.
« Last Edit: September 06, 2009, 10:58:15 PM by Nosaj »

Offline Dementor

  • WF Colonel
  • *****
  • Posts: 1732
  • Reputation: 28
  • Gender: Male
    • View Profile
Re: Yngwie ripping off Black Steel???
« Reply #12 on: September 07, 2009, 04:39:41 AM »
WOW V.similar...I wish Black Steel would "fall off the edge of the world"

 :eyebrows:
:hmm:

Offline whammy

  • WF Colonel
  • *****
  • Posts: 3594
  • Reputation: -30
  • Gender: Male
    • View Profile
Re: Yngwie ripping off Black Steel???
« Reply #13 on: September 07, 2009, 07:28:23 PM »
yeah  :no:
"Log off. That cookie shit makes me nervous!"

Offline Metallifux

  • WF Colonel
  • *****
  • Posts: 1851
  • Reputation: -45
  • Gender: Male
  • Cursh your enemies, see them driven before you
    • View Profile
    • chaos divine
Re: Yngwie ripping off Black Steel???
« Reply #14 on: September 07, 2009, 09:14:45 PM »
Sue em, good publicity if nothing else! But yeh it does happen all the time, a song i wrote back when i was 15-16 turned out to have nearly the exact same main riff as the Megadeth song Back in the Day which came out about 3 years later. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=plqLUedocvs

Offline whammy

  • WF Colonel
  • *****
  • Posts: 3594
  • Reputation: -30
  • Gender: Male
    • View Profile
Re: Yngwie ripping off Black Steel???
« Reply #15 on: September 07, 2009, 09:24:47 PM »
thats it...really just bread for lawyers...
"Log off. That cookie shit makes me nervous!"

Offline -=[Cataclysm]=-

  • WF Colonel
  • *****
  • Posts: 2948
  • Reputation: -14
  • Gender: Male
  • ...welcome to the torture chamber...
    • View Profile
    • chaos divine website
Re: Yngwie ripping off Black Steel???
« Reply #16 on: September 08, 2009, 09:00:36 PM »
Sue em, good publicity if nothing else! But yeh it does happen all the time, a song i wrote back when i was 15-16 turned out to have nearly the exact same main riff as the Megadeth song Back in the Day which came out about 3 years later. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=plqLUedocvs


HAHAH yeah im sure it went that way around. Megadeth copied you... :hmm:

Offline Metallifux

  • WF Colonel
  • *****
  • Posts: 1851
  • Reputation: -45
  • Gender: Male
  • Cursh your enemies, see them driven before you
    • View Profile
    • chaos divine
Re: Yngwie ripping off Black Steel???
« Reply #17 on: September 10, 2009, 05:22:47 AM »
Sue em, good publicity if nothing else! But yeh it does happen all the time, a song i wrote back when i was 15-16 turned out to have nearly the exact same main riff as the Megadeth song Back in the Day which came out about 3 years later. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=plqLUedocvs


HAHAH yeah im sure it went that way around. Megadeth copied you... :hmm:

get fucked cunt... i was trying to make the point that its hard to write something 100% original these days

Offline whammy

  • WF Colonel
  • *****
  • Posts: 3594
  • Reputation: -30
  • Gender: Male
    • View Profile
Re: Yngwie ripping off Black Steel???
« Reply #18 on: September 10, 2009, 05:06:23 PM »
tell him how you really feel...
"Log off. That cookie shit makes me nervous!"