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Re: 2009 Australian Metal Awards results
« Reply #25 on: November 11, 2009, 04:07:26 AM »
also listening to this chaos divine band - what generic shit! how did this get best band of the year? hand on let me check - yes, I am not tripping treestumps, "best overall band of 2009". This is utter shit - how is this melodic or progressive - what because you have a few leads in the mix and the guitarist throws in the odd solo? oh wait, the production is good, so you can hear what he's doing...that must be it. what about the incessant chug chug riffs that you pulled directly out of In Flames' ass? fuck off, there is nothing progressive about plagiarism. The only song that's even vaguely interesting is Avalon and that's because the singer has a nice clean voice, reminds me of Anathema, but then again Anathema have released albums of this stuff that absolutely blow the mind, and only after releasing absolutely crushing doom albums. this tends to lethargically blow limp cocks. fuck off, just fuck off. who was in charge of granting these awards - you fucking posers, don't know what real metal is.

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Re: 2009 Australian Metal Awards results
« Reply #26 on: November 11, 2009, 04:36:04 AM »
Go back to your forum where you have a topic where you talk about yourself.

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Re: 2009 Australian Metal Awards results
« Reply #27 on: November 11, 2009, 05:31:37 AM »
wimps and posers leave the hall... heavy metal or no metal at all! :headbang:

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Re: 2009 Australian Metal Awards results
« Reply #28 on: November 11, 2009, 05:32:55 AM »
Congrats Chaos Dudes  :headbang:

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Re: 2009 Australian Metal Awards results
« Reply #29 on: November 11, 2009, 05:46:16 AM »
to this idiot anon dude...what do you define as "real metal"? 

Everyone has their favourite genre mine being prog and symphonic and yet I dont go around bagging nu-metal & saying these bands have no talent, yet I say it the polite way, and thats that and yet you have dissed a band that is from perth and has worked proverbial arses of to get to where they are today, just because their influences can be heard & you hate them for "plagarising"

Furthermore - its not up to you where the AHMA is going next and I would love to see it here in Perth just so you fuckers get of your lazy arse and see where the real home of metal lies and at least we fans don't walk around with arms folded swilling beer waiting for some action to occur which what I noticed when I went over for the AHMA's in Sydney that bored the heck out of me only CD kept me focused on the show and my support when they won an award!


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Re: 2009 Australian Metal Awards results
« Reply #30 on: November 11, 2009, 06:09:44 AM »
Quote

yeah i couldn't really care less what people think of my band, it just got to me they could bag out the organisers that worked their asses off to give everyone a good night to come and celebrate.

this:

http://www.brismetal.com/modules.php?name=Forums&file=viewtopic&p=449298&highlight=#449298

Also which band are you in?

Also don't be ridiculous there will be no AMA in Perth in the foreseeable future. You're not going to get all of those people on a 5-hr flight. This doesn't mean your scene sucks or anything of the sort, just means that you have to make a bigger effort to maintain it.

It would have been good to see more bands on the bill that were not from around here and were not gay, but the organisers ended up with some tough choices after the amenta decided to fuck off on tour and everyone they asked were reluctant to go on the bill. There is a quite a bit of a backlash about this even in the underground and I don't think the event itself changed a lot of minds.

Go home, posuer.

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Re: 2009 Australian Metal Awards results
« Reply #31 on: November 11, 2009, 07:35:30 AM »
also listening to this chaos divine band - what generic shit! how did this get best band of the year? hand on let me check - yes, I am not tripping treestumps, "best overall band of 2009". This is utter shit - how is this melodic or progressive - what because you have a few leads in the mix and the guitarist throws in the odd solo? oh wait, the production is good, so you can hear what he's doing...that must be it. what about the incessant chug chug riffs that you pulled directly out of In Flames' ass? fuck off, there is nothing progressive about plagiarism. The only song that's even vaguely interesting is Avalon and that's because the singer has a nice clean voice, reminds me of Anathema, but then again Anathema have released albums of this stuff that absolutely blow the mind, and only after releasing absolutely crushing doom albums. this tends to lethargically blow limp cocks. fuck off, just fuck off. who was in charge of granting these awards - you fucking posers, don't know what real metal is.

hahaha what an awesome cunt

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Re: 2009 Australian Metal Awards results
« Reply #32 on: November 11, 2009, 01:54:54 PM »


I am going to leave the rest of it however I do find this part very amusing "It would have been good to see more bands on the bill that were not from around here"

Ok so we had out of 8 bands play Bane of Isildur (NSW) Eyefear (VIC) Death Audio (VIC) Five Star Prison Cell (VIC) Ouroboros (NSW) A Secret Death (QLD) Chaos Divine (WA) Sadistik Exekution (Dubbo Tip) mmm yes too many bands from around here. This just proves that unfortunatly people just rant without checking their facts.  

I find it very amusing that the underground talk about scene politics etc and yet of 15 years experience there is not another scene more concerned with politics than the underground.


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Re: 2009 Australian Metal Awards results
« Reply #33 on: November 11, 2009, 02:12:56 PM »
As you all know we had experienced a lot of technical difficulties just before the opening of the show. We are slowly uploading some sections on to youtube for people to see what we had planned. The link below was going to be the opening segment used just before the first band (Bane of Isildur) started into their set.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RYCMjhzS5yQ

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Re: 2009 Australian Metal Awards results
« Reply #34 on: November 11, 2009, 02:58:31 PM »
also listening to this chaos divine band - what generic shit! how did this get best band of the year? hand on let me check - yes, I am not tripping treestumps, "best overall band of 2009". This is utter shit - how is this melodic or progressive - what because you have a few leads in the mix and the guitarist throws in the odd solo? oh wait, the production is good, so you can hear what he's doing...that must be it. what about the incessant chug chug riffs that you pulled directly out of In Flames' ass? fuck off, there is nothing progressive about plagiarism. The only song that's even vaguely interesting is Avalon and that's because the singer has a nice clean voice, reminds me of Anathema, but then again Anathema have released albums of this stuff that absolutely blow the mind, and only after releasing absolutely crushing doom albums. this tends to lethargically blow limp cocks. fuck off, just fuck off. who was in charge of granting these awards - you fucking posers, don't know what real metal is.

Is it school holidays already?

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Re: 2009 Australian Metal Awards results
« Reply #35 on: November 11, 2009, 04:53:57 PM »
Oh the butthurtz, haha, thank you /wf/ you made me laugh.

Nosferatu: see what you did there - that corna emoticon? You're a retard just because you used that and I'm not going to talk to you in case it's contagious.

Lotus Eater: I forgot about nu-metal - yes that chug chug thing they do throughout their songs comes from nu-metal. And no nu-metal was never "real" metal, it was an attempt to combine two popular styles of youth music into one, commercialised from the very start - there wasn't a grass roots thing going, bands like Korn and Slipknot went from zero to stardom overnight because the record companies knew it would sell. Ironically the grass roots thing came later with suburban kids emulating their MTV heroes by donning jumpsuits and masks and playing chug chug into their practice amplifiers. The rest of us were watching Slipknot on TV and going: "this is embarrassing! these sounds like riffs I wrote when I was learining guitar back in yr 7".

WarNick, it?s poseur, not posuer.

AMA Team: these bands like death audio, play here all the time and are for the most part in the melodic/thrash/core realm which bores me to fucking tears. I can?t speak for everyone else there, but it?s a really poorly chosen cross-section of Australian metal. Really commercial and watered down. I know it?s not your fault entirely. A lot of people came crawling back once they heard Sad Ex. But it is a misrepresentation of what?s going on here to the music industry (don?t tell me this was about the fans, cause I?m not buying it) and you?re directly responsible for putting the even on, if not it running entirely smoothly. So make of it what you will.
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Re: 2009 Australian Metal Awards results
« Reply #36 on: November 11, 2009, 06:11:54 PM »
Ok so you mean that you are based in Melbourne right? Yeah fair enough in that case there were a few VIC bands on the bill however as it was held in Sydney it was actually Death Audio's first time they had played here.

Something I have constantly stated was that we invited everyone to be involved but it was the politics of the underground that stopped it from being represented but in the end we got SadEx to represent that. As far as the other cross sections I think we covered most bases. Agreed we did not have a black metal contingent however we had asked 3 black metal bands to play and unfortunately due to touring commitments they could not although they have stated they would want to be on next years bill.

Yes there are a lot of people in the metal community that do not like a lot of the sub genres as you have mentioned but there are a lot that do and personally I do not feel that the view of excluding these elements is going to help the community in any way. Excluding people or groups because they do not listen to the "correct form of metal" is very self destructive and will never see any improvements in the overall growth of the entire genre.

With 8 bands it is hard to cover every single percieved derivative of metal, I mean that is almost impossible to do unless you run an all day festival over 2 stages. I have no problem with you voicing your opinion at all as that is the way things go when you try to do something new and you have every right to your opinion that is why I am simply explaining our position and accepting yours as it is.

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Re: 2009 Australian Metal Awards results
« Reply #37 on: November 11, 2009, 06:35:55 PM »
Something I have constantly stated was that we invited everyone to be involved but it was the politics of the underground that stopped it from being represented but in the end we got SadEx to represent that. As far as the other cross sections I think we covered most bases. Agreed we did not have a black metal contingent however we had asked 3 black metal bands to play and unfortunately due to touring commitments they could not although they have stated they would want to be on next years bill.

Underground politics? Oh please do tell! What happened to Killraser for instance (not that they are underground or anything)?

What black metal bands, the Amenta? They are not Black Metal, they are wannabe industrial crap now. Nazxul? Nazxul don't support the scene, the scene should support them for sticking to their guns for this long. Who else did you ask? Was it D666? I hope those people follow GOTH's example already and break up so that black rehash thrash stops being cool.

Anyway. Not actually arguing with you as it's pointless at the outset. Amen.

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Re: 2009 Australian Metal Awards results
« Reply #38 on: November 11, 2009, 06:53:57 PM »
Something I have constantly stated was that we invited everyone to be involved but it was the politics of the underground that stopped it from being represented but in the end we got SadEx to represent that. As far as the other cross sections I think we covered most bases. Agreed we did not have a black metal contingent however we had asked 3 black metal bands to play and unfortunately due to touring commitments they could not although they have stated they would want to be on next years bill.

Underground politics? Oh please do tell! What happened to Killraser for instance (not that they are underground or anything)?

What black metal bands, the Amenta? They are not Black Metal, they are wannabe industrial crap now. Nazxul? Nazxul don't support the scene, the scene should support them for sticking to their guns for this long. Who else did you ask? Was it D666? I hope those people follow GOTH's example already and break up so that black rehash thrash stops being cool.

Anyway. Not actually arguing with you as it's pointless at the outset. Amen.

Hahaha this guy has to have Aspergers or something!

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Re: 2009 Australian Metal Awards results
« Reply #39 on: November 11, 2009, 07:17:24 PM »
Something I have constantly stated was that we invited everyone to be involved but it was the politics of the underground that stopped it from being represented but in the end we got SadEx to represent that. As far as the other cross sections I think we covered most bases. Agreed we did not have a black metal contingent however we had asked 3 black metal bands to play and unfortunately due to touring commitments they could not although they have stated they would want to be on next years bill.

Underground politics? Oh please do tell! What happened to Killraser for instance (not that they are underground or anything)?

What black metal bands, the Amenta? They are not Black Metal, they are wannabe industrial crap now. Nazxul? Nazxul don't support the scene, the scene should support them for sticking to their guns for this long. Who else did you ask? Was it D666? I hope those people follow GOTH's example already and break up so that black rehash thrash stops being cool.

Anyway. Not actually arguing with you as it's pointless at the outset. Amen.

Wow way to slam a lot of people in one post. Personally I think that D666 are and always have been a great band and deserve more than what they have achieved. Nazxul are and always have been a great bunch of people. Yes the Amenta have moved away from stereotypical black metal and good on them for doing so. Why would anyone want to "rehash" standard black metal.

As far as Killrazer goes there has already been press releases sent out about what happened so no need to go into details about this again but it was made pretty clear the reasons behind why this happened.

You didn't answer my question mate. So you are from Melbourne yeah?

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Re: 2009 Australian Metal Awards results
« Reply #40 on: November 11, 2009, 07:22:40 PM »

As far as Killrazer goes there has already been press releases sent out about what happened so no need to go into details about this again but it was made pretty clear the reasons behind why this happened.

Not really - the press release was pretty vague in that annoying diplomatic way. Did they try to crack onto you or something? Come on spill the beans - if they were being douches, the world deserves to know, so that nobody books them again.

You didn't answer my question mate. So you are from Melbourne yeah?

I'm from the internet.

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Re: 2009 Australian Metal Awards results
« Reply #41 on: November 11, 2009, 07:33:52 PM »
If you can't read between the lines then there is no point explaining anything.

Oh of course your one of thooose guys. Cool then all the best.

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Re: 2009 Australian Metal Awards results
« Reply #42 on: November 11, 2009, 08:23:24 PM »
just leave it dude - no point bothering arguing back. Everyone that actually has a brain realises your awards show and what you are trying to do is an excellent thing to happen for the music scene in general.

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Re: 2009 Australian Metal Awards results
« Reply #43 on: November 11, 2009, 08:27:57 PM »
just leave it dude - no point bothering arguing back. Everyone that actually has a brain realises your awards show and what you are trying to do is an excellent thing to happen for the music scene in general.
Yeah I realised this on the last post. Cheers mate.

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Re: 2009 Australian Metal Awards results
« Reply #44 on: November 11, 2009, 08:32:58 PM »
just leave it dude - no point bothering arguing back. Everyone that actually has a brain realises your awards show and what you are trying to do is an excellent thing to happen for the music scene in general.

Says the best overall band of 2009.

Hey, in your song "Avalon" you mention Eve...except that Eve wasn't at Avalon. Are you guys trying to be metaphorical here or are just retarded?

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Re: 2009 Australian Metal Awards results
« Reply #45 on: November 11, 2009, 08:43:46 PM »
we are trying to be retarded. happy?

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Re: 2009 Australian Metal Awards results
« Reply #46 on: November 11, 2009, 08:49:56 PM »
Anon. I read a lot of flapping and no real suggestions of improvement from you, apart from taking every band off the bill because they dont suit your criteria.
Its one thing to be an ambiguous armchair critic, but do you have a better way of promoting and exposing your beloved scene? If not, you are really only hilighting your own lack of knowledge and commitment to music youre supposed to love.

By your standards, shows like this would be full of completely obscure 'true' metal bands that would attract perhaps a dozen hardcore followers - and would subsequently be canned afterwards.

If you can attract a wide cross-section of music lovers, and money is generated to put back into the metal scene and perpetuate this kind of buzz, Im happy to have you stay home annoyed while everyone else opens their ears and enjoys more events.

I love the old stuff too. I love the obscure stuff. I love the 'true' stuff. But if youre the only one whining so much about the event, perhaps you're the one thats out of touch?


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Re: 2009 Australian Metal Awards results
« Reply #47 on: November 11, 2009, 09:17:03 PM »
"no, it is the children who are wrong."


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Re: 2009 Australian Metal Awards results
« Reply #48 on: November 11, 2009, 09:18:15 PM »
we are trying to be retarded. happy?

trolling protip: you can always pick on the band's lyrics - AIDS and FAIL without fail.

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Re: 2009 Australian Metal Awards results
« Reply #49 on: November 11, 2009, 09:18:54 PM »
Anon. I read a lot of flapping and no real suggestions of improvement from you, apart from taking every band off the bill because they dont suit your criteria.
Its one thing to be an ambiguous armchair critic, but do you have a better way of promoting and exposing your beloved scene? If not, you are really only hilighting your own lack of knowledge and commitment to music youre supposed to love.

By your standards, shows like this would be full of completely obscure 'true' metal bands that would attract perhaps a dozen hardcore followers - and would subsequently be canned afterwards.

If you can attract a wide cross-section of music lovers, and money is generated to put back into the metal scene and perpetuate this kind of buzz, Im happy to have you stay home annoyed while everyone else opens their ears and enjoys more events.

I love the old stuff too. I love the obscure stuff. I love the 'true' stuff. But if youre the only one whining so much about the event, perhaps you're the one thats out of touch?




moar caek.

Or how about this: if somebody in the UG metal scene is willing to sacrifice their pub metal stardom by laying down their guitar and actually help out where it counts: ie with organising events and helping bands they should do everything in their power to help young bands irrespective of genre get gigs, help them record, lead by example in other words. Appealing to industry support will result in one thing only: bullshit commercial bands like the ones on the bill will get undeserved attention which they would get anyway. The interesting underground bands not on the set list will fall by the wayside. That?s it ? there can be no dialogue between art and commerce, it is absolutely destructive to art because greed and stupidity always wins, especially when getting paid for it.

Another thing ? one problem continually plaguing metal promoters is hostility form publicans. Either we break too many glasses or spill too many beers or don?t gamble enough etc etc etc. Now imagine if somebody sympathetic to the cause was in charge of a bar? It would make things so much easier when organising shows. Or in the very least try to develop rapport with that particular industry ? that sort of industry support we definitely need, not the music industry, who would charge you 1000 bucks to see Britney Spears lip synch. Fuck that, don?t want to be anywhere near that.