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The Great things about Perth Metal.
« on: May 02, 2010, 04:40:27 AM »
I got a bit bored tonight and decided to read the post by the dude who wrote the opening post of "the Problem with Perth Metal".  I had forgotten what he had said and was a bit suprised to read it all again and see the spew of black hate that came out of him.  I figured that if HE can write a manifesto, then so can I.  

                                             Perth Metal


The Perth Metal scene may be small and insignificant to those who look at it from the outside, but to us it is a great thing.  It isn't large, comprising of probably not much more than 60 bands, and most don't have a huge following, but that is the norm for most of the World's metal scenes.  I am told that if you compare Perth to other places, we actually stack up really well in fact, that wherever you go it is the same small tight Metal scenes.  Y'know, that underground sub-culture thing is just fine with me, but it seems to me that metal in this city and this country is less frowned upon than elsewhere.  I suspect that the big hardrock bands in Australia's past have created an acceptance of heavier music that smooths the transition for many from that form to metal, it isn't unusual to see dudes in Angels or ACDC shirts headbanging next to the guys in Cradle of Filth shirts.  Its all juat different shades of black after all.

The topic slighting our scene mentioned that we are not a subculture, just a parody, a cliche, a joke.  Not so.  What exactly IS a metal subculture supposed to look like anyway?  I see it as being a group of very different people from very different backgrounds united by a fascination of the darker aspects of life, a refusal to accept the faults of society without questioning, a love of metal in all its energy and inglory, and a wish to be hanging with other people who feel the same way.  Is it a subculture in the strictest sense?  Who gives a fuck!!  We are able to come together because we all FEEL the metal, and damn it but it is a good feeling to me, a feeling of superiority over the masses who listen to the music that they are told to.  

We are the proud few!!  We don't need a cocktail of illegal poisons to make OUR music mean something, give us a beer and point us at the wall of flying hair and we have our drug of choice right there.  So what if some of us are into other music, or other lifestyles, we take anyone who hears the Metal and understands, even if it is just for a short while.  I get a buzz from watching a couple of metro queers taken by the Metal and banging their product-coated heads down the front with the metal rabble, tomorrow their necks will cane and they will feel like they got mugged, but for a bit they understood.  We don't know these guys, but we know each other and due to the years we have shared the metal, we know each other pretty fucking well. The working class despair that spawned the roots of Metal may be long gone, but its spirit lives on in the music and in every one of us who hears and believes.  No, maybe we aren't a true subculture, all sitting in dark candlelit rooms drinking blood and listening to Dark Throne, but I don't see that that lessens us in any way.  The world has changed and Metal is not as much of a lifestyle choice as it once was, these days it is more about the music itself rather than the feeling of rebellion and isolation from the world.  We are accepted now, Metalheads don't have to sequester outselves away any more, we are here and we are shameless.   In Iran a headbanger may have to hide himself away, but here in Perth we are loud and proud.

Our bands in this small scene are a wonder.  There is a diversity here that is astonishing.  If you want a European Melodic Death flavour there is Vesper's Descent, Red Descending, Pathogen and more.  Not heavy enough for you?  Maybe the Brutal Deathmetal Stylings of Grotesque, Nails of Imposition, AH or DFC is your thing.  Prefer it black?  Ok, Wardaemonic, Uncreation, Naetu, Bereavement and Mhorgl are just a few of the bands in the city that might appeal to you.  Too black, want something a bit less evil sounding?  Try Khariot, Malignant Monster or Wrath of Fenhir to name just a few.  Still too black?  The Ascent, Ides of March, Empires Laid Waste, Arch Rival or Archaic might be what you had in mind.  Want it more symphonic or melodic and less angry?  Voyager, Noctis, Trident Winter, Claim the Throne, Lacrymae and Advent Sorrow can help you there.  Want it more hardcore or commercial?  Dyscord, Fool the World, Pale as Ashes, Chaos Divine, Desolate and more are there to entertain you.  Thrashy or oldschool stuff your thing?  Enforce, Psychonaut, Arkarion, Sins of the Father, Dethlehem, Shrapnel and GF are a few of that genre.  Prefer heavy progressive, industrial or just generally fucked up?  Nexus, Neverborn, Combined Deathtoll, Cuntscape and UTI are there to help.  There are more, and more and more.  And more.

We have it all here, we can provide no matter what you want.  Bands come and go, new sounds are being worked on every second.  There is an adage that springs to mind to do with Perth Metal:  "if you can't find a metal band in Perth that is your thing, wait five minutes."

Here in Perth we are isolated from the world at large by vast distance, you only have to fly across the country to realise exactly how far from the rest of the world we are.  For a long time we didn't get Metal bands touring here and so we turned inwards and created our own metal.  We have been accused of being trend driven and trying to sound like bands who are on the other side of the world.  In some cases that is true, there are a lot of bands who seem to follow that doctrine, but they do it because that is the music that reaches them, not for the promise of success.  Hey, we all know that success from Perth is hard beyond measure, we don't do it because of that.  

There is a complaint that we don't sound "Aussie", that we sound American, European or whatever.  Maybe that is true, because other than having Aboriginal instruments in the mix I can't think what exactly you DO make it sound more Australian.  Look, I love being Aussie and I am constantly comparing everything we do to the rest of the world, and I think that we DO have an aussie flavour.  The thing that I believe defines us as Aussie sounding is so minor that it is almost unnoticable.  It is that rap and hiphop never got a hold of our metal over here, that we rejected those influences, have prospered in our segregation from Euro and yank pop music and consistently gotten heavier throughout the years while other countries lost their way in the machinery of the music biz.  We have been largely ignored by the world around us and we have learned to find our own way, and it is only in the last few years that the world has started coming to us and us to them.  We are an independant metal scene and we should be proud.

Since the early 90s when I staggered into this scene, times have changed so much I barely recognise Perth Metal at all.  Times are changing and they are gonna change a lot more, the transition seems to be excellerating.  As technology reaches the point where distance is irrelevant and we become more of a global society, we will lose more of our own unique identity.  But we will always have our roots here in Perth Metal, and I can think of worse ways to live.

Jez.



I welcome debate on this and I expect that there will be some vastly different viewpoints.


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Re: The Great thing sbout Perth Metal.
« Reply #1 on: May 02, 2010, 08:02:33 AM »
Let me answer this question with another question... you're gay!

I didn't read that, it was way too long.

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Re: The Great thing sbout Perth Metal.
« Reply #2 on: May 03, 2010, 01:30:46 AM »
I skimmed the first paragraph.

I went to gigs in Melbourne for fucking years, and made about 3 friends.
Perth metal scene speaks for itself.

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Re: The Great thing sbout Perth Metal.
« Reply #3 on: May 03, 2010, 02:48:31 AM »
holy crap jez! you sure put the effort in when you want to don't ya! good work!

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Re: The Great thing sbout Perth Metal.
« Reply #4 on: May 03, 2010, 04:51:25 AM »
We have been accused of being trend driven and trying to sound like bands who are on the other side of the world.

What fucking band in any genre or culture anywhere doesn't try to sound like other bands.
Be it intentional or otherwise.


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Re: The Great thing sbout Perth Metal.
« Reply #5 on: May 03, 2010, 07:01:47 AM »
Awesome Jez. This is what we need more of.
I fucking love the diversity in Perth & hope it stays that way.

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Re: The Great thing sbout Perth Metal.
« Reply #6 on: May 03, 2010, 07:20:55 AM »

Ive never met you Mr. Jez but i feel i should cuz u seem to get what it mean to be "metal"   :clap:


i need to get to more gigs and chat with peoples!


lost most of my regular gig buddies over last 6 months  :headbang:



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Re: The Great thing sbout Perth Metal.
« Reply #7 on: May 03, 2010, 07:33:38 AM »
Catalyst your such a fag

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Re: The Great thing sbout Perth Metal.
« Reply #8 on: May 03, 2010, 03:46:13 PM »
Says the man wearing a fake eyelash and addicted to milkshakes.   ;D

This isn't quite the "debate" I had in mind. 
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Re: The Great thing sbout Perth Metal.
« Reply #9 on: May 03, 2010, 04:48:36 PM »
The only debates going on here are internal debates as to whether we can be fucked reading all of that.
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Re: The Great thing sbout Perth Metal.
« Reply #10 on: May 03, 2010, 07:04:53 PM »
Awesome post Jez! I love your writing style mate! Makes me proud to have been part of perth metal over the years!

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Re: The Great thing sbout Perth Metal.
« Reply #11 on: May 03, 2010, 07:57:38 PM »
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Re: The Great thing sbout Perth Metal.
« Reply #12 on: May 03, 2010, 09:55:57 PM »
The only debates going on here are internal debates as to whether we can be fucked reading all of that.

I'll bet you read every fucking word.   It just wouldn't be very Nihilistic to admit it.   ;D

I wrote it for myself mainly, it was just me venting my thoughts at the time, like blogging on a massive scale.   There are some who believe in the scene and maybe they would like to read a completely different viewpoint that the grim and harsh one put forward in that other topic.  Hey, read it, don't read it, who gives a fuck?   I don't really give a fuck what people think of me or my thoughts on the subject, I'm gonna write it anyway.   :raspberry:

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Re: The Great thing sbout Perth Metal.
« Reply #13 on: May 03, 2010, 11:05:51 PM »
I read the whole thing, and Im impressed. Well done Jez... you are the voice of the Perth Metal scene.
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Re: The Great thing sbout Perth Metal.
« Reply #14 on: May 03, 2010, 11:23:51 PM »
Hahaha fuck no, imagine the horror if I was?   Just another cog in the machine.  

From a cohesion point of view it would be Daz.  From a promotional point of view that would Dyson.  From a catalogue of material  point of view it would be Dustin.  

I'm nobody, I've just got the loudest mouth in the scene.
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Re: The Great thing sbout Perth Metal.
« Reply #15 on: May 03, 2010, 11:57:23 PM »
It's about time someone coined the Perth Metal Scene.

Great stuff Jez !

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Re: The Great thing sbout Perth Metal.
« Reply #16 on: May 04, 2010, 01:38:09 AM »
nicely worded, to be metal, proud, and exist in the here and now...  :headbang: :headbang: :headbang:

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Re: The Great thing sbout Perth Metal.
« Reply #17 on: May 04, 2010, 04:22:48 AM »
nicely worded, to be metal, proud, and exist in the here and now...  :headbang: :headbang: :headbang:

Agreed, couldnt have put it better myself Jez! :headbang: :headbang: :clap: :headbang:

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Re: The Great thing sbout Perth Metal.
« Reply #18 on: May 05, 2010, 01:47:39 AM »
all i know is, there seems like there would be a hell of alot more metal out there if there were more FUCKING DRUMMERS!!![/

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Re: The Great thing sbout Perth Metal.
« Reply #19 on: May 05, 2010, 03:04:05 AM »
all i know is, there seems like there would be a hell of alot more metal out there if there were more FUCKING DRUMMERS!!![/

like 'fucking magnets'?

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Re: The Great thing sbout Perth Metal.
« Reply #20 on: May 05, 2010, 04:33:22 AM »
finding drummers are like miracles, it's gonna blow your brains.

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Re: The Great thing sbout Perth Metal.
« Reply #21 on: May 05, 2010, 05:02:48 AM »
I wish i were anywhere near good enough to play in a band but sadly i dont even have a drum kit anymore. my parents sold it cos they decided it wouldnt fit in the shipping container when we moved back here from England last. jerks.

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Re: The Great thing sbout Perth Metal.
« Reply #22 on: May 05, 2010, 05:09:05 AM »
Get a drumkit Paula so we can start a celtic disco blackened/death metal band with progressive jazz and eastern music influences.

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Re: The Great thing sbout Perth Metal.
« Reply #23 on: May 06, 2010, 12:21:20 AM »
all i know is, there seems like there would be a hell of alot more metal out there if there were more FUCKING DRUMMERS!!![/

Fuck, I allways thought it was harder to find a good vocalist than it is to find a good drummer :hmm:
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Re: The Great thing sbout Perth Metal.
« Reply #24 on: May 07, 2010, 01:28:53 AM »
nicely worded, to be metal, proud, and exist in the here and now...  :headbang: :headbang: :headbang:

Agreed, couldnt have put it better myself Jez! :headbang: :headbang: :clap: :headbang:

I doubt many, if any, of us could. You have a way with words Jez. Perth Metal fucken rules  :headbang:
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Re: The Great thing sbout Perth Metal.
« Reply #25 on: May 07, 2010, 04:37:54 AM »
nicely worded, to be metal, proud, and exist in the here and now...  :headbang: :headbang: :headbang:
Agreed, couldnt have put it better myself Jez! :headbang: :headbang: :clap: :headbang:
I doubt many, if any, of us could. You have a way with words Jez. Perth Metal fucken rules  :headbang:
Thanks guys, I'm glad somebody read it. 

Fuck, I allways thought it was harder to find a good vocalist than it is to find a good drummer :hmm:
You should just settle for a shit one like the rest of us then.  ;D

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Re: The Great things about Perth Metal.
« Reply #26 on: May 07, 2010, 09:00:58 AM »
nicely worded, to be metal, proud, and exist in the here and now...  :headbang: :headbang: :headbang:
Agreed, couldnt have put it better myself Jez! :headbang: :headbang: :clap: :headbang:
I doubt many, if any, of us could. You have a way with words Jez. Perth Metal fucken rules  :headbang:
Thanks guys, I'm glad somebody read it. 

Fuck, I allways thought it was harder to find a good vocalist than it is to find a good drummer :hmm:
You should just settle for a shit one like the rest of us then.  ;D

Ha ha, yeah we did, dosnt mean we cant keep our eyes open for a replacement in the mean time :laugh:

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Re: The Great things about Perth Metal.
« Reply #27 on: May 07, 2010, 06:42:04 PM »
 :headbang:

United Western Front...

Well said jez, this Perth metal scene is fucking awesome, way too many good bands and some fucking great bands... I dont know why we couldnt stand on a world stage with the best of 'em and make ourselves heard... we just need to support the scene and weed out the doubters and sceptics within the scene, or the ones who bash it all and do nothing to change it...

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Re: The Great things about Perth Metal.
« Reply #28 on: May 08, 2010, 03:57:42 AM »
Inspirational Jez! :headbang:
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Re: The Great thing sbout Perth Metal.
« Reply #29 on: May 08, 2010, 06:18:47 AM »
all i know is, there seems like there would be a hell of alot more metal out there if there were more FUCKING DRUMMERS!!![/

Fuck, I allways thought it was harder to find a good vocalist than it is to find a good drummer :hmm:

this can also be a hassle.

where the fuck have all the drummers gone? are there none??? or do they just not play music, i mean metal??

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Re: The Great things about Perth Metal.
« Reply #30 on: May 08, 2010, 10:32:18 AM »
The issue is drumming takes skill and we live in Perth.
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« Reply #31 on: May 08, 2010, 08:12:36 PM »
The issue is drumming takes skill and we live in Perth.

Skill? pfffft, just surround yourself with toms n cymbals and swing wildlly (works for me) :laugh:, I supose the problem might be that living in the suburbs, and the problems of the noise that drums make, would make it more difficult to practice all the time (or play at all). would just be easier to learn guitar and not piss off the neighbours. im lucky in that i live on 30 achers in the middle of fuckin no where, can play at whatever stupid hour i want. (hmmmm, so why do i still suck at drums :( )

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Re: The Great things about Perth Metal.
« Reply #32 on: May 08, 2010, 08:50:57 PM »
The issue is drumming takes skill and we live in Perth.

Tons of great drummers around!

What I love about Perth metal bands is that the crowd is almost never aggro, in fact quite the opposite since we all pretty much know eachother . I also love the fact that scene-trendy-posers don't want to go to metal gigs because, ironically, they think its going to be full of people starting fights.

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« Reply #33 on: May 09, 2010, 05:04:54 AM »
The issue is drumming takes skill and we live in Perth.

Tons of great drummers around!

What I love about Perth metal bands is that the crowd is almost never aggro, in fact quite the opposite since we all pretty much know eachother . I also love the fact that scene-trendy-posers don't want to go to metal gigs because, ironically, they think its going to be full of people starting fights.

so were are these drummers my friend? can i have one??? Please??

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Re: The Great things about Perth Metal.
« Reply #34 on: May 10, 2010, 01:34:31 AM »
Catalyst, a brilliant piece of sophistry there but astoundingly true. I think there is nothing special or unique about Perth metal as such (it is influenced by the international scene) but that it is a just as anywhere else made up the fans who find whatever solace they can in the music and by but large it is the music itself, the musicianship, the riffs, pounding drums and range of vocal stylings...as you say its not the need to the need to be rebellious which drives the metal machine...

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Re: The Great things about Perth Metal.
« Reply #35 on: May 10, 2010, 10:54:54 PM »
The issue is drumming takes skill and we live in Perth.

Tons of great drummers around!

What I love about Perth metal bands is that the crowd is almost never aggro, in fact quite the opposite since we all pretty much know eachother . I also love the fact that scene-trendy-posers don't want to go to metal gigs because, ironically, they think its going to be full of people starting fights.

so were are these drummers my friend? can i have one??? Please??

Us drummers are procrastinating/waiting for the 6 month waiting period for our log book to go through.

Also perth's missing Doom and needs more thrash... more I say.
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« Reply #36 on: May 11, 2010, 04:20:56 AM »
well remedy that   :yes:
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Re: The Great things about Perth Metal.
« Reply #37 on: May 11, 2010, 05:05:57 AM »
The issue is drumming takes skill and we live in Perth.

Tons of great drummers around!

What I love about Perth metal bands is that the crowd is almost never aggro, in fact quite the opposite since we all pretty much know eachother . I also love the fact that scene-trendy-posers don't want to go to metal gigs because, ironically, they think its going to be full of people starting fights.

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so were are these drummers my friend? can i have one??? Please??

Us drummers are procrastinating/waiting for the 6 month waiting period for our log book to go through.

Also perth's missing Doom and needs more thrash... more I say.
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Re: The Great things about Perth Metal.
« Reply #38 on: May 18, 2010, 03:17:10 PM »
^

I dun like death metal :)
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Re: The Great things about Perth Metal.
« Reply #39 on: May 18, 2010, 09:32:49 PM »
aint no death metal man. Vocals sure aint death.

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Re: The Great things about Perth Metal.
« Reply #40 on: August 06, 2010, 06:52:00 AM »
bit late to the discussion, but thought the post by the OP was great.

RE the part about sounding aussie...i build guitar pedals as a hobby, and im working on a kookaburra wah.
and maybe even something that can simulate the attack of a drop bear. :headbang:

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Re: The Great things about Perth Metal.
« Reply #41 on: August 06, 2010, 03:09:09 PM »
Thats awesome dude! I remember when u came up with the idea of the kookaburrah wah... good to see ur still tryin' to get it bro! :headbang:

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Re: The Great things about Perth Metal.
« Reply #42 on: August 07, 2010, 02:11:42 AM »
KOOKABUWAH! :)

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Re: The Great things about Perth Metal.
« Reply #43 on: August 07, 2010, 03:19:57 AM »
 :headbang: