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Re: Camera's eveywhere.
« Reply #100 on: July 15, 2010, 11:22:17 PM »
also, if the govt were serious about safety, they'd levy or make compulsory comprehensive defensive driving courses.

totally agree with that, and i heard the most bullshit responce on tv from a police commisioner over east. he said that compulsory defensive driving courses would be a bad thing because it would encourage reckless driving in young people.

what a load of shit. yes, when you do the course, you get to pretty much hoon, fly along and skid through puddles and stuff, it is really fun, but it was the best training i have ever had, and it did not encourage me to start driving like a hoon.

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Re: Camera's eveywhere.
« Reply #101 on: July 15, 2010, 11:49:46 PM »
Maybe you guys should put the passion you have for this boring shit into your music.

Thought of attempting to stir people up on Perth Bands? Sedaals moved there.

Perthbands isn't enough of a challenge.

What amazes me with this topic is that anyone posting seriously on here doesn't feel like a total and complete retard. I wish I was that oblivious to my own actions.
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Re: Camera's eveywhere.
« Reply #102 on: July 16, 2010, 01:47:45 AM »
If you can't beatem joinem?

I guess in the end I don't have my license yet, 3 more months fucking new laws. Don't really need it apart from getting to jams anyway, I live a 15 minute walk from northbridge.
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Re: Camera's eveywhere.
« Reply #103 on: July 16, 2010, 03:24:56 AM »
CDT you said none of your accidents involved speeding? Well if the cars that hit you had been speeding you'd probably be a lot worse off.

My point is that the govt is all about revenue raising & not saving lives.
If they were serious about saving lives they would invest all of this wasted money on actual driver training. These cameras do nothing to reduce the road toll & the stats show it. There are statistics that show world wide that they cause MORE accidents.
Statistics show that very rarely is speeding alone the cause of deaths on roads. Usually speeding only makes a bad situation worse. Yet they centre on speeding when the primary causes of serious accidents, most of which will still be serious accidents regardless of speed infringements are IGNORED.
A speed camera does not catch, dangerous driving, DUI, stupidity. @ least a video camera would provide more evidence as to the cause of accidents & where training money needs to be spent.
They won't install video because in a court of law you can use the footage to defend your actions. This costs them money, which is the opposite of their greedy money grabbing tactic.

When I cop a fine for something that involves me using common sense & my complaint is thrown back in my face, I contact all the current affairs programs. It is people like myself that drive these programs to unearth stats & documentation that I cannot get my own hands on. There is always one govt official able to be bought off to supply info that the govt wants to keep hidden away. More people need to complain to these programs & if you have info that certain stats exist let them know & they may look into it.
Masive public pressure will be the only way for govt's to spend the $ to actually fix the problem.   

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Re: Camera's eveywhere.
« Reply #104 on: July 16, 2010, 04:20:48 AM »
Simon, you are the champion of the people!

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Re: Camera's eveywhere.
« Reply #105 on: July 16, 2010, 04:50:53 AM »
Current affairs programs? That's it I'm out.

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Re: Camera's eveywhere.
« Reply #106 on: July 16, 2010, 06:17:58 AM »
Maybe you guys should put the passion you have for this boring shit into your music.

Thought of attempting to stir people up on Perth Bands? Sedaals moved there.

Perthbands isn't enough of a challenge.

What amazes me with this topic is that anyone posting seriously on here doesn't feel like a total and complete retard. I wish I was that oblivious to my own actions.

I do actually,
And if putting passion into my music would make it better i wouldve done it already. It appears there's no hope there either. hahaha. i kid.
You still doing anything then musically? You mentioned palying gigs with Rapeseed years ago.
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Re: Camera's eveywhere.
« Reply #107 on: July 16, 2010, 06:58:48 AM »
I sold out.

Actually I was just crap, but that was half the fun.
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Re: Camera's eveywhere.
« Reply #108 on: July 16, 2010, 04:15:47 PM »
Thats it, Im writing a song about speed limits... :)

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Re: Camera's eveywhere.
« Reply #109 on: July 16, 2010, 04:59:57 PM »
Speeding doesn't cause accidents, nor does driving slow. Its bad driving and nothing more. If you saw the report Mark Skaife did a few weeks back on channel 7, it all came down to poor education with driving. We teach people how to pass a test, not how to drive. We need mandatory advanced driving courses and a reform of our testing standards.

As someone who takes people out on their 'tests', i can tell you this is 100% true.

They should do a trial run on a small group of people to see if it works, then maybe work from there.

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« Reply #110 on: July 16, 2010, 05:22:07 PM »

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« Reply #111 on: July 16, 2010, 05:26:49 PM »
Thats it, Im writing a song about speed limits... :)

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Re: Camera's eveywhere.
« Reply #112 on: July 16, 2010, 05:51:15 PM »
I sold out.

Actually I was just crap, but that was half the fun.

ah dude! never thought about getting back into it? You cant be that shit if you were gigging surely?

Thats it, Im writing a song about speed limits... :)

Ok Damo lets do it!
Nihilist on vox, I can do guitars, i can get a bassist if no one here wants to do it.
I got the recording gear.

Im only joking, unless you all wanna do it???? ;) ;D


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Re: Camera's eveywhere.
« Reply #113 on: July 16, 2010, 07:25:44 PM »
I sold out.

Actually I was just crap, but that was half the fun.

ah dude! never thought about getting back into it? You cant be that shit if you were gigging surely?

Thats it, Im writing a song about speed limits... :)

Ok Damo lets do it!
Nihilist on vox, I can do guitars, i can get a bassist if no one here wants to do it.
I got the recording gear.

Im only joking, unless you all wanna do it???? ;) ;D



Let me play cello, Give it that epic/classical feel that all speed limit songs require.
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Re: Camera's eveywhere.
« Reply #114 on: July 16, 2010, 08:01:19 PM »
I sold out.

Actually I was just crap, but that was half the fun.

ah dude! never thought about getting back into it? You cant be that shit if you were gigging surely?

Thats it, Im writing a song about speed limits... :)

Ok Damo lets do it!
Nihilist on vox, I can do guitars, i can get a bassist if no one here wants to do it.
I got the recording gear.

Im only joking, unless you all wanna do it???? ;) ;D



Let me play cello, Give it that epic/classical feel that all speed limit songs require.

I got a mic that should be able to cover that. Done! Youre in.
It just wouldnt be the same without a cello.

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Re: Camera's eveywhere.
« Reply #115 on: July 16, 2010, 10:02:52 PM »
Ironically, today...
http://www.news.com.au/national/new-speed-cameras-deliver-a-fast-buck/story-e6frfkwi-1225890292548

Notice the lack of any mention of safety.

Thoughts?

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Re: Camera's eveywhere.
« Reply #116 on: July 16, 2010, 10:48:48 PM »
Ok Damo lets do it!
Nihilist on vox, I can do guitars, i can get a bassist if no one here wants to do it.
I got the recording gear.

Im only joking, unless you all wanna do it???? ;) ;D

I'm a bassist... and a courier just dropped off my recording interface. How convenient. 8)


Ironically, today...
http://www.news.com.au/national/new-speed-cameras-deliver-a-fast-buck/story-e6frfkwi-1225890292548

Notice the lack of any mention of safety.

Thoughts?

Hmm... all I could see in that article was numerous mentions of "$xxx million"... nothing about safety.

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Macquarie Bank, dubbed "the millionaires' factory" because of the huge salaries paid to executives, is attempting to secure a cut of the bonanza by launching a $275 million takeover bid for Redflex, the company contracted by the State Government to operate the cameras.

It's nice to know the corporate fat cats are concerned for motorist safety too!
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Re: Camera's eveywhere.
« Reply #117 on: July 17, 2010, 08:14:57 AM »
Thats it, Im writing a song about speed limits... :)


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« Reply #118 on: July 17, 2010, 04:43:51 PM »
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Re: Camera's eveywhere.
« Reply #119 on: July 18, 2010, 04:35:13 PM »
 



Ironically, today...
http://www.news.com.au/national/new-speed-cameras-deliver-a-fast-buck/story-e6frfkwi-1225890292548

Notice the lack of any mention of safety.

Thoughts?

Hmm... all I could see in that article was numerous mentions of "$xxx million"... nothing about safety.

Quote
Macquarie Bank, dubbed "the millionaires' factory" because of the huge salaries paid to executives, is attempting to secure a cut of the bonanza by launching a $275 million takeover bid for Redflex, the company contracted by the State Government to operate the cameras.

It's nice to know the corporate fat cats are concerned for motorist safety too!

This is just fucked. This will lead to further exploitation.

I was talking to my mum a while back about the privatisation of government (taxpayer funded) assets. She was saying some that there is a push by corporate bodies to privatise our prison system and judicial system. This means then that these corporate types can create hysteria about crime through the media, thus grooming us for harsher penalties for lesser crimes, mandatory sentencing, longer jail terms and less attention for the wellbeing of 'criminals' within the prison system. Then these 'criminals' are put 'to work' in whatever way the prison owners (no longer the tax payer) see's fit. This is how the private prison creates a profit. The current government model prefers to keep people out of jail because it costs money does not produce a profit. A privatised prison wants people in prison because it's in it's best financial interest.

These cameras being privatised are another example of financial interest being put before community interest.

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Re: Camera's eveywhere.
« Reply #120 on: July 18, 2010, 10:49:25 PM »
Ive gotta say though, I wouldnt mind so much if the revenue was spent on actually reducing fatalities on our roads, but it never seems to be the case.
It seems the more money they get, the more cameras they buy, make more money, buy more cameras... etc.

Real issues of safety arent being addressed.

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Re: Camera's eveywhere.
« Reply #121 on: July 19, 2010, 04:44:06 AM »
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« Reply #122 on: July 19, 2010, 06:58:37 AM »
It's not so much Speed that causes accidents. Although it doesn't help. It's more idiots that turn into an intersection or pull out of a road without looking for cars.