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Mike Portnoy leaves DT.
« on: September 10, 2010, 09:05:36 PM »
http://www.mikeportnoy.com/forum/m2585154.aspx

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I am about to write something I never imagined I'd ever write:
After 25 years, I have decided to leave Dream Theater....the band I founded, led and truly loved for a quarter of a century.
 
To many people this will come as a complete shock, and will also likely be misunderstood by some, but please believe me that it is not a hasty decision...it is something I have struggled with for the last year or so....

After having had such amazing experiences playing with Hail, Transatlantic and Avenged Sevenfold this past year, I have sadly come to the conclusion that I have recently had more fun and better personal relations with these other projects than I have for a while now in Dream Theater...
 
Please don't misinterpret me, I love the DT guys dearly and have a long history, friendship and bond that runs incredibly deep with them...it's just that I think we are in serious need of a little break...

Dream Theater was always my baby...and I nurtured that baby every single day and waking moment of my life since 1985...24/7, 365...never taking time off from DT's never-ending responsibilites (even when the band was "off" between cycles)...working overtime and way beyond the call of duty that most sane people ever would do for a band...

But I've come to the conclusion that the DT machine was starting to burn me out...and I really needed a break from the band in order to save my relationship with the other members and keep my DT spirit hungry and inspired.

We have been on an endless write/record/tour cycle for almost 20 years now (of which I have overseen EVERY aspect without a break) and while a few months apart from each other here & there over the years has been much needed and helpful, I honestly hoped the band could simply agree with me to taking a bit of a "hiatus" to recharge our batteries and "save me from ourselves"...
 
Sadly, in discussing this with the guys, they determined they do not share my feelings and have decided to continue without me rather than take a breather...I even offered to do some occasional work throughout 2011 against my initial wishes, but it was not to be...

While it truly hurts for me to even think of a Dream Theater without Mike Portnoy (hell, my father named the band!!), I do not want to stand in their way...so I have decided to sacrifice myself and simply leave the band so as to not hold them back against their wishes....
 
Strangely enough, I just read an interview that I recently did that asked me about the future of DT and I talked about "always following your heart and being true to yourself"...sadly I must say that at this particular moment, my heart is not with Dream Theater...and I would simply be "going through the motions", and would honestly NOT be true to myself if I stayed for the sake of obligation without taking the break I felt I needed.
 
I wish the guys the best and hope the music and legacy we created together is enjoyed by fans for decades to come...I am proud of every album we made, every song we wrote and every show we played....

I'm sorry to all the disappointed DT fans around the world...I really tried to salvage the situation and make it work...I honestly just wanted a break (not a split)...but happiness cannot be forced, it needs to come from within....

You DT fans are the greatest fans in the world and as you all know, I have always busted my ass for you guys and I hope that you will stay with me on my future musical journey, wherever it may lead me....(and as you all know my work ethic, there will surely be no shortage of future MP projects!)

Sadly...
Your fearless ex-leader and drummer,
MP

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Re: Mike Portnoy leaves DT.
« Reply #1 on: September 10, 2010, 09:54:36 PM »
Fair enough, never liked DT much but I do very much like Portnoy (non drummer's perspective - always wondered why he was so maligned by many...) I don't think i could handle being in a studio with Jordan Rudess for an hour, let alone 10+ years, so I think he's done ok for himself.

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Re: Mike Portnoy leaves DT.
« Reply #2 on: September 11, 2010, 12:09:31 AM »
Ahh he's had a good run. Hopefully it's as he said that he didn't leave the rest of the DT guys on bad terms. Good luck to him in the future :)
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Re: Mike Portnoy leaves DT.
« Reply #3 on: September 11, 2010, 05:02:34 AM »
Fair enough, never liked DT much but I do very much like Portnoy (non drummer's perspective - always wondered why he was so maligned by many...) I don't think i could handle being in a studio with Jordan Rudess for an hour, let alone 10+ years, so I think he's done ok for himself.

Oh youve gotta be kidding - Jordan is an awesome guy!

Im just speculating here, but I dont believe a lot of what the press statements are saying. Did Mike leave or did the band move ahead without him?

Mike (in his own words) was burnt out, but it was his decision to take on the workload he had. If you're overdoing it, why not drop the sideprojects and concentrate on the breadwinner? If he wasnt vibed about being in the chair for Dream Theater anymore, then shouldnt he have just left the band? Apparently not - he claims the band 'moved on without him' when he suggested a break, which tells me he had no plans to leave permanently - But why not if you prefer to be doing other things?

My hunch is that the rest of DT may have been getting impatient with Mikes other projects pulling him out of DT time, whilst they're trying to write/record a new album. It would be a distraction and although the other guys have dabble in side projects in the past and still do, DT seems to always be the band they are 100% behind, and Mike (although being THE driving force for the band) has been increasingly spreading out to other projects as time goes on. If he was after a 'hiatus', what guarantees would the band have when he did return? I think they saw his heart wasnt in it anymore and offered him a way out.

If one person goes and finds themselves heaps of work while the rest of the band sit around and wait for him to come back, I cant blame them for not being sympathetic when he asks for some down time afterwards.

Dunno, its just a thought...


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Re: Mike Portnoy leaves DT.
« Reply #4 on: September 11, 2010, 10:46:21 AM »
WHO leaves WHAT?

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Re: Mike Portnoy leaves DT.
« Reply #5 on: September 11, 2010, 05:13:31 PM »
Interesting thoughts Damo, you may be right on. But I also get the feeling that Mike is bigger than the band itself. IMO - Transatlantic's Bridge Across Forever in particular is better than any album DT has ever done. Neal Morse's prog runs rings around DT for me, but it's a different style of prog one that doesn't flaunt extravagant solos at the sacrifice of good music.

With DT theres only ever a couple songs on every album which stand out - on Black Clouds nothing came close to the count of tuscany on the rest of the album, case in point. Maybe he's just sick of the same old DT songs day in day out? I don't know how they're going to replace him - perhaps they can get someone technically as good as him (I'm sure theres many drummers out there that have the chops) but someone with his creativity? That's irreplaceable.

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Re: Mike Portnoy leaves DT.
« Reply #6 on: September 11, 2010, 05:35:52 PM »
ill play drums for Dream Theater... the drum kit will always only be almost as big a his though, unless Petrucci of coarse decides to open his pocket for me.
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Re: Mike Portnoy leaves DT.
« Reply #7 on: September 11, 2010, 07:10:25 PM »
Maybe he decided to leave and make some decent heavy music.  His ears were punished enough by James LaBrie's voice...
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Re: Mike Portnoy leaves DT.
« Reply #8 on: September 11, 2010, 07:52:42 PM »
Yeah, Avenged Sevenfold KICK ARSE DUDES.
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Re: Mike Portnoy leaves DT.
« Reply #9 on: September 11, 2010, 09:05:23 PM »
Interesting thoughts Damo, you may be right on. But I also get the feeling that Mike is bigger than the band itself. IMO - Transatlantic's Bridge Across Forever in particular is better than any album DT has ever done.
I also like that album, but not as much as some of the earlier DT stuff, and album sales will back me up. There is no doubt Mike is a huge influence, as the guy is a marketing machine, and THATS what the other guys in DT are going to struggle without.

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perhaps they can get someone technically as good as him (I'm sure theres many drummers out there that have the chops) but someone with his creativity? That's irreplaceable.
There are definitely more proficient and creative players around. By admission, Mike doesnt consider himself very creative anyway, and draws a lot from the same ideas.

Theyll find a drummer no problem, hell Id even have a crack at it, but finding a motivating/promoting force? Thats tougher.

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Re: Mike Portnoy leaves DT.
« Reply #10 on: September 11, 2010, 09:27:29 PM »
that sucks my nut!    fuck
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Re: Mike Portnoy leaves DT.
« Reply #11 on: September 11, 2010, 10:31:58 PM »
as a looooooong time dream theater fan i still am not quite sure what to make of this. i feel i should be upset but for some reason it almost seems like this is the way it should go? I have never got alot of emotion from their music but the last few albums really havent grabed me like anything from 2000 back other than train of thought as almost a bit of a prog metal experiment. It will be interesting to see what happens for all parties involved going ahead.

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Re: Mike Portnoy leaves DT.
« Reply #12 on: September 11, 2010, 10:44:48 PM »
Yeah, Avenged Sevenfold KICK ARSE DUDES.

This should be framed for posterity. Context free of course.

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Re: Mike Portnoy leaves DT.
« Reply #13 on: September 11, 2010, 10:46:57 PM »
I imagine touring with A7X who are #1 in America and have a very experienced manager looking after the biz, would have been a easier and enjoyable gig for him.

Is he now going to join A7X full time?  

Sadly Dream Theater will now be like a car with no engine (at least until he returns someday), if the other guys don't want him in the band right now then all the best to Avenged Sevenfold as the late Revs favorite drummer was MP and he would be the most fitting and appreciated replacement.

 
MP will kick ass no matter what he does good for you go with what makes you happy, this has taken a lot of guts for him to break away from a stale situation.

I will enjoy hearing whatever projects or bands he takes on = GO FOR IT MAN!!
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Re: Mike Portnoy leaves DT.
« Reply #14 on: September 11, 2010, 11:57:42 PM »
He mentioned in a press release that this split has nothing to do with A7X... But then he stopped short of stating categorically that wouldn't join them :)

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Re: Mike Portnoy leaves DT.
« Reply #15 on: September 12, 2010, 12:22:05 AM »

Oh youve gotta be kidding - Jordan is an awesome guy!


No doubt he's lovely, but I just don't think constant widdlywiddly would be good for my soul.

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Re: Mike Portnoy leaves DT.
« Reply #16 on: September 12, 2010, 03:17:04 AM »
Yeah, Avenged Sevenfold KICK ARSE DUDES.

This should be framed for posterity. Context free of course.

Even out of context the sarcasm in that sentence is sledgehammer-esque.
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Re: Mike Portnoy leaves DT.
« Reply #17 on: September 12, 2010, 05:59:32 PM »

Oh youve gotta be kidding - Jordan is an awesome guy!


No doubt he's lovely, but I just don't think constant widdlywiddly would be good for my soul.

Thatm and John Myung continually running his mouth... :)

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Re: Mike Portnoy leaves DT.
« Reply #18 on: September 12, 2010, 10:32:59 PM »
In addition to John exploding into rage every 15 minutes because the nibblies are too salty / champagne isn't cold enough / hot towels are too damp.

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Re: Mike Portnoy leaves DT.
« Reply #19 on: September 13, 2010, 10:21:46 PM »
where'd you hear that shit from?
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Re: Mike Portnoy leaves DT.
« Reply #20 on: September 14, 2010, 05:42:59 PM »
If DT want to be good, they need a hot injection of:

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Re: Mike Portnoy leaves DT.
« Reply #21 on: September 14, 2010, 06:20:01 PM »
I've only ever heard one DT song (Pull Me OFF) and I've decided that in order for me to hear another, Eric Adams would have to sing for them.  :eyebrows:
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Re: Mike Portnoy leaves DT.
« Reply #22 on: September 14, 2010, 11:12:11 PM »
yeah they got to mainstream...better shit in the 2 dollar bin hey
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Re: Mike Portnoy leaves DT.
« Reply #23 on: September 15, 2010, 04:23:26 AM »
where'd you hear that shit from?

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Re: Mike Portnoy leaves DT.
« Reply #24 on: September 15, 2010, 06:32:17 PM »
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