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Re: Mike Portnoy leaves DT.
« Reply #25 on: September 17, 2010, 07:06:46 AM »
DT are one of my fave bands, but i have been less than impressed with the last 2 albums and it seems they've kinda turned into a Dream Theater cover band, never really pushing the boundaries like early albums instead following a formula that it seemed Mike was pushing on the others. I really hope this change creates a tidal wave of creativity from the other members and DT can again be on top of my prog pile.
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Re: Mike Portnoy leaves DT.
« Reply #26 on: September 23, 2010, 03:58:37 AM »
Quote from: Metallifux on September 17, 2010, 07:06:46 AM
DT are one of my fave bands, but i have been less than impressed with the last 2 albums and it seems they've kinda turned into a Dream Theater cover band, never really pushing the boundaries like early albums instead following a formula that it seemed Mike was pushing on the others. I really hope this change creates a tidal wave of creativity from the other members and DT can again be on top of my prog pile.

Really you are well said. I agree with your thoughts. :)
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Re: Mike Portnoy leaves DT.
« Reply #27 on: September 23, 2010, 06:10:33 AM »
Wait, where's the spam link?!
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Re: Mike Portnoy leaves DT.
« Reply #28 on: October 05, 2010, 01:05:22 AM »
you tell me
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Re: Mike Portnoy leaves DT.
« Reply #29 on: December 21, 2010, 08:32:45 PM »
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MIKE PORTNOY: I Tried To Rejoin DREAM THEATER But Was Rebuffed
December 20th, 2010
by EvilG

Mike Portnoy
Ex-DREAM THEATER drummer Mike Portnoy has revealed that he made a recent attempt to rejoin his former bandmates but was rebuffed by the group he formed and led for 25 years. Writing on his official forum, Portnoy states, ?Just for the record, this is indeed true..

?Fairly recently, I reached out to the guys to try and make amends and offered to reconcile for the sake of having peace back in our lives? (plus I know how much it meant to a lot of the fans?)

?I figured it was still possible to try and save us, because they hadn?t made any announcements yet or begun any public activity with another drummer? but sadly, they declined my offer (well, actually their lawyer did? they didn?t even tell me themselves?.)

?Sorry, gang, I honestly gave it my all?

?So now the fans on my Twitter and Facebook can please stop asking me to go back to DREAM THEATER? I tried, and the door is now shut? The ball is now in their court, not mine?

?I?m not crying or looking for mercy by posting this? I am merely trying to set the record straight as that is always the most important thing about my relationship with you guys? No BS, no spins, nothing to hide? and for better or for worse, I tell it like it is? I?ve also recently seen some people accuse my online activity of ?looking for attention or media coverage,? or ?looking for sympathy,? but it?s honestly none of the above? I merely value having an open and active communication with my fans? Always have, always will? It is the cornerstone of everything I?ve done since day #1 with DREAM THEATER?

?This was posted here FOR YOU GUYS to know about? here on MY message board on MY website? If it ends up on Blabbermouth or wherever else, that is THEIR choice to spread, I did not request it or send out a ?press release??

?Anyways, onward and upward?

?I?ve got a lot of great music and ideas waiting to come out of me and alot of exciting collaborations in the works?.so goodbye 2010?bring on 2011!?

AVENGED SEVENFOLD issued a statement late on Friday (December 17) regarding the dismissal of Portnoy, who played on the band?s latest album, ?Nightmare?, and toured with them during the past year following the death last December of original drummer Jimmy ?The Rev? Sullivan. The band?s statement read in part, ?For the past few months, we?ve been blessed with Mike Portnoy?s talent and humanity. When Mike agreed to tour with us, it was only through the end of 2010. We always knew we?d need to find another solution for 2011 and beyond. And it?s time for us to take that next step.?

As for why Portnoy himself was not their man, the statement said, ?[Portnoy] is a brilliant writer, producer and, of course, drummer. Because of that, the world and we would always see it as AVENGED SEVENFOLD with Mike Portnoy. We take a lot of pride in AVENGED SEVENFOLD being about something greater then any individuals.?

Portnoy himself broke the news via his Facebook page on Thursday, following several days of rumors about his status.

AVENGED SEVENFOLD frontman M. Shadows told The Pulse Of Radio that the band was not happy about the public way in which Portnoy?s split with DREAM THEATER was played out, which may have soured Portnoy?s relationship with AVENGED. ?We were actually a little more shocked,? M. Shadows said. ?We felt that maybe both parties could have handled it a little more internally without being so press release-happy about what had happened between them. Because we?re a band that, really, when it comes to news all over web sites or this or that about bands, you know, we don?t tweet much, we don?t try to put ourselves out that much, and all the drama and controversy wasn?t something that we wanted at all.?

In an interview over the weekend with LA Weekly, AVENGED manager Larry Jacobson said, ?The plan had always been for Mike Portnoy to play with the band through 2010. Nothing changed there but it was confusing (because) Mike gave interviews suggesting he may be touring with the band beyond 2010.?
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Re: Mike Portnoy leaves DT.
« Reply #30 on: December 21, 2010, 09:20:02 PM »
such an "amicable" split could hardly have resulted in this sort of rejection. No doubt there is BS in there some where...and why oh why the fuck Avenged Seevnfold, Portnoy?  ...maybe another Chickenfoot could be forged...Parsons Nose featuring Mike Portnoy
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Re: Mike Portnoy leaves DT.
« Reply #31 on: December 21, 2010, 09:49:39 PM »
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Re: Mike Portnoy leaves DT.
« Reply #32 on: December 21, 2010, 10:09:17 PM »
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...and why oh why the fuck Avenged Seevnfold, Portnoy?

One reason...

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Re: Mike Portnoy leaves DT.
« Reply #33 on: December 21, 2010, 11:21:48 PM »
DT gig no different, at least in the states...besides its not hard to find a gathering of a couple of thousand emo bitches...fuck central park has ahalf that every friday arvo

DT  :headbang:
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Re: Mike Portnoy leaves DT.
« Reply #34 on: December 22, 2010, 10:05:50 PM »
Interesting to see who they get to replace Portnoy, be a challenge finding another drummer as good him. They have canceled their Soundwave slot as well. Just give Saxon, Slayer & Dimmu Borgir a longer playing time would be nice.
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Re: Mike Portnoy leaves DT.
« Reply #35 on: December 23, 2010, 12:01:38 AM »
give maiden two hours...keen to see zombie too
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Re: Mike Portnoy leaves DT.
« Reply #36 on: December 23, 2010, 02:49:01 AM »
http://www.ultimate-guitar.com/news/general_music_news/dream_theater_reject_portnoy_reunion.html

He tried to rejoin them as soon as he left Avenged Sevenfold and got told to fuck off. I say good on them you cant just go and quit then go "Hey, This bands finished now let me back in"
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Re: Mike Portnoy leaves DT.
« Reply #37 on: December 23, 2010, 05:47:23 AM »
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DT gig no different, at least in the states
In what way... lighting?
A7X are MASSIVE in the states right now and are playing to audiences the size of which Dream Theater will probably never see, as sad as that is.

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He tried to rejoin them as soon as he left Avenged Sevenfold and got told to fuck off. I say good on them you cant just go and quit then go "Hey, This bands finished now let me back in"
I like Portnoy but have to agree. Rumour has it that they have found their new drummer anyway.
I had heard a rumour of who it may be too :)
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Re: Mike Portnoy leaves DT.
« Reply #38 on: December 23, 2010, 05:22:53 PM »
suppose...then he might as well drum for U2 if that's the point...

can you wikileak us the rumour?  :hmm:
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Re: Mike Portnoy leaves DT.
« Reply #39 on: December 23, 2010, 08:18:45 PM »
I seriously hope that they take away all or most of his endorsements for this bullshit, Mike Portnoy is a fucking joke even more so now he decided to leave Dream Theater...  As a musician he has shown everyone that he is a great songwriter but as a soloist he has shown us that its all just 'ting, ting, bash, bash' (very similiar to Joey Jordison's [Slipknot] style, no other elements but rock and metal, good luck finding a ghost note in any of their solos!)

I can safetly say that Portnoys days as a songwriter are over (unless he writes some crappy solo album) he's gonna have to part with being a session musician for a long time unless some REALLY desperate millionare hires him to do something but I can tell you that the quality of the track wont come close to his hourly rates, it just wont be worth it... ESPECIALLY largely due to his limited playing style.  Sure he'll nail it in just about one take for you, but chances are it will sound nothing in the end like you wanted it to!

Portnoy's style is like, completely the opposite to Terry Bozzios.  Fucking nice massive kit but he sure as hell wouldnt know how to use it Melodically!
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Re: Mike Portnoy leaves DT.
« Reply #40 on: December 23, 2010, 08:30:54 PM »
You're awesome.
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Re: Mike Portnoy leaves DT.
« Reply #41 on: December 23, 2010, 11:16:24 PM »
Quote from: rulezy696 on December 23, 2010, 08:18:45 PM
I seriously hope that they take away all or most of his endorsements for this bullshit, Mike Portnoy is a fucking joke even more so now he decided to leave Dream Theater...  As a musician he has shown everyone that he is a great songwriter but as a soloist he has shown us that its all just 'ting, ting, bash, bash' (very similiar to Joey Jordison's [Slipknot] style, no other elements but rock and metal, good luck finding a ghost note in any of their solos!)

I can safetly say that Portnoys days as a songwriter are over (unless he writes some crappy solo album) he's gonna have to part with being a session musician for a long time unless some REALLY desperate millionare hires him to do something but I can tell you that the quality of the track wont come close to his hourly rates, it just wont be worth it... ESPECIALLY largely due to his limited playing style.  Sure he'll nail it in just about one take for you, but chances are it will sound nothing in the end like you wanted it to!

Portnoy's style is like, completely the opposite to Terry Bozzios.  Fucking nice massive kit but he sure as hell wouldnt know how to use it Melodically!

Mike, what you may be forgetting is that (regardless of his playing ability/style) hordes of drummers follow what he does. Any album he's on would do that little better in sales.

Hes a decent player, but most importantly he's marketable. While he's marketable, endorsees will continue to flock to him.
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Re: Mike Portnoy leaves DT.
« Reply #42 on: December 24, 2010, 04:34:14 AM »
Since when do drum solos matter outside of filling space when the power goes out?
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Re: Mike Portnoy leaves DT.
« Reply #43 on: December 24, 2010, 04:56:03 PM »
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Re: Mike Portnoy leaves DT.
« Reply #44 on: December 24, 2010, 05:13:10 PM »
Quote from: Ingasm on December 24, 2010, 04:34:14 AM
Since when do drum solos matter outside of filling space when the power goes out?

Since about 1938.
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Re: Mike Portnoy leaves DT.
« Reply #45 on: December 24, 2010, 05:27:23 PM »
Quote from: Damo on December 24, 2010, 05:13:10 PM
Quote from: Ingasm on December 24, 2010, 04:34:14 AM
Since when do drum solos matter outside of filling space when the power goes out?

Since about 1938.

1938 hey Damo, would you be reffering to the introduction of be-bop and swing (Jazz)?
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Re: Mike Portnoy leaves DT.
« Reply #46 on: December 24, 2010, 05:59:44 PM »
Dream Theater could carry on as long as they want to its the type of music and loyal fanbase built from many years decades in fact, although not overly cool or hip there is always someone who appreciates musicianship type or bands / artists.

A7X been around 10 years or so, yes they are red hot right now, interesting to see if they remain huge, only time will tell, their last few releases though have shown them to be a very marketable band though. They certainly have the songs, commerciality & stylistic elements that connect with the masses, bringing heavy music to the kids.

I actually enjoy listening both Dream Theater & A7X they play well, have good albums and live shows, just a shame the way its panned out for Portnoy.
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Re: Mike Portnoy leaves DT.
« Reply #47 on: December 24, 2010, 07:08:06 PM »
Mikey - Anything around the Philly Joe Jones Era. Drums really started to feature once 'sets' started becoming the norm.
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Re: Mike Portnoy leaves DT.
« Reply #48 on: December 24, 2010, 07:43:41 PM »
Thanks for the drum solo history lesson Damo.

Yes nothing like seeing  a good drummer cut sick behind the kit. Drum solos have their place in music as much as short & simple snappy songs, as in all music it just depends on what best serves the context.
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Re: Mike Portnoy leaves DT.
« Reply #49 on: December 24, 2010, 08:40:15 PM »
Quote from: Damo on December 24, 2010, 07:08:06 PM
Mikey - Anything around the Philly Joe Jones Era. Drums really started to feature once 'sets' started becoming the norm.

Thanks for the clarify Damo.  Some of you more 'run o' the mill shallow metalheaded dimwits' will find this information bewildering.  Take a leaf out of the 'Jazz History' book for once and realise that none of its actually as easy as it looks!
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