Played guys. Think about what you post hey? An hour an ago I was tempted to write some stuff. I thought nah, these guys will post some stupid stuff first. Then I can reply like this afterwards.
Even though we have some differences I think both you guys have some completely valid and interesting points on some things and I'm fairly open to hearing peoples opinions regardless of wether they are racist, fascist, dictator, Marxist, pro\anti abortion, doofhead, christian, ugly, nerd, pole, gay, christian, handicapped, happen to be tunnel viewed, don't like metal, Polish, don't like people who wear blue hats, prefer the company of men, say stupid stuff on Western Front, happen to be in bands I don't like, happen to be a different colour from me, different sex.... the list goes on....
My point is your deliberately limiting your own perception. Ultimately perception is all you have.