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Grave Forsaken - This Day Forth, 22nd May
« on: March 22, 2009, 04:49:13 PM »
Yup, been a while since I've said anything about these guys. Mostly because they've been locked away in the studio working on their 3rd album. It's now mostly all done and is getting the finishing touches put on. It's available for pre-order at http://soundmass.com/show_item.php?item=5859 The pre-order will get you a documentary as well once its released. However, Iron Guardian Industries will be stocking it once its released so you'll be able to pick up a copy from me if you don't mind waiting.


Anyway, why would you want to get it? Well, they've improved an awful lot since their debut album, and have been working with a top-notch producer. Their music can actually stand up along side some of the other bands in Perth now, and they play an old style of thrash not easily found elsewhere. Plus, I told you too, and you all listen to me anyway  :P

You can find two new songs on their MySpace page, but I reckon the homemade clip of Mother of Harlots is worth watching, just to see what they sound like now. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=on4WeR1pZRc  It's a clip from the "Making Off" documentary.


Not sure when they'll be ready to play live again, as their drummer is also busy recording the 3rd Scourged Flesh album, but I'm hoping to put on a combined album launch later on down the track for them. Once again, expect a combination of white and black metal  :eyebrows:

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Re: Grave Forsaken - This Day Forth, 22nd May
« Reply #1 on: March 22, 2009, 06:48:43 PM »
In before "Hail Satan/Death to the bastard Nazarene" etc ...

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Re: Grave Forsaken - This Day Forth, 22nd May
« Reply #2 on: March 23, 2009, 11:33:39 AM »
That joke's over. The new joke has to relate to mental illness/depression/being left by your girlfriend.
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Re: Grave Forsaken - This Day Forth, 22nd May
« Reply #3 on: March 23, 2009, 12:03:46 PM »
That joke's over. The new joke has to relate to mental illness/depression/being left by your girlfriend.

Bonus points for combining the two!

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Re: Grave Forsaken - This Day Forth, 22nd May
« Reply #4 on: March 23, 2009, 02:27:46 PM »
That joke's over. The new joke has to relate to mental illness/depression/being left by your girlfriend.

Yes, because that's relevant to Grave Forsaken ... 

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Re: Grave Forsaken - This Day Forth, 22nd May
« Reply #5 on: March 23, 2009, 02:36:46 PM »
That joke's over. The new joke has to relate to mental illness/depression/being left by your girlfriend.

Yes, because that's relevant to Grave Forsaken ... 

if you listen to christian metal your girlfriend will leave you.
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Re: Grave Forsaken - This Day Forth, 22nd May
« Reply #6 on: March 23, 2009, 03:39:31 PM »
I reckon Metallica borders on Christial metal, heaps of their songs have religious content of one kind or another, off the top of my head I can think of The God who Failed, Leper Messiah, Jump in the Fire, the Four Horsemen, Holier than thou and Creeping Death.  I'm sure that there is more but I lost interest after the black album.

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Re: Grave Forsaken - This Day Forth, 22nd May
« Reply #7 on: March 23, 2009, 04:48:51 PM »
Um Id just like to argue with that Jez and say that Metallica wouldn't be considered christian metal, the songs that have religious themes would be a statement about religion leaning more to the negative side.

Someone correct me if I'm wrong but I remember reading that James' parents were highly religious folks and he hated them for that or at least resented it.

Leper messiah is about organised religion and how it prays upon people to exploit for cash for example

"Send me money, send me green
Heaven you will meet
Make a contribution
and you'll get a better seat"

Creeping death is just a statement on the plagues from the ol moses tale. Hes not really supporting it nor is he against it.

The God That failed pretty much explains itself.

But that now brings me to the question..

If a band sings about religious stuff, but not in neutral direction, would you still call that christian metal?

Id also like to add

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Re: Grave Forsaken - This Day Forth, 22nd May
« Reply #8 on: March 23, 2009, 05:39:37 PM »
The bible's full of great stories about betrayals, mass raping, hacking people up and other good things.

In my eyes, unless a band is actively promoting a religion through music, they can be considered secular. Theology is a fascinating thing to write about, refer to your favourite pagan / norse / folk band for proof of this. It's no different.

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Re: Grave Forsaken - This Day Forth, 22nd May
« Reply #9 on: March 23, 2009, 05:50:00 PM »
But that now brings me to the question..

If a band sings about religious stuff, but not in neutral direction, would you still call that christian metal?

"Christian Metal" is a rather silly label, but generally refers to a band where the members are Christian and write lyrics from a Christian perspective: Mortification fits the description perfectly.  A band with Christian members who write about whatever they want is just a "band with Christian members": inExordium, for example, or even recent Megadeth. A band without Christian members, but who write from a Christian perspective is "cashing in on a niche" :p

But really, a band is a band, regardless of their lyrical themes and personal views on life. There are so many different labels for metal, that it's all rather ridiculous. When you start labeling a band for their lyrics as well as their music, you've got too many labels.



Metallica do have some interesting songs alright, Creeping Death comes into mind right away. However as Sins said, it's just telling a story. It's songs like "Cure" which appear to be rather spiritual, although it depends from what perspective you look at it.


The bible's full of great stories about betrayals, mass raping, hacking people up and other good things.
http://www.cracked.com/article_16546_6-raunchiest-most-depraved-sex-acts-from-bible.html
http://www.cracked.com/article_16429_5-superpowers-from-bible-that-put-marvel-dc-shame.html
http://www.cracked.com/article_15699_9-most-badass-bible-verses.html

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In my eyes, unless a band is actively promoting a religion through music, they can be considered secular. Theology is a fascinating thing to write about, refer to your favourite pagan / norse / folk band for proof of this. It's no different.
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Re: Grave Forsaken - This Day Forth, 22nd May
« Reply #10 on: March 24, 2009, 02:48:23 PM »
Guys, I was just kidding.    ::)

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Re: Grave Forsaken - This Day Forth, 22nd May
« Reply #11 on: March 24, 2009, 03:51:14 PM »
A band without Christian members, but who write from a Christian perspective is "cashing in on a niche" :p



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Re: Grave Forsaken - This Day Forth, 22nd May
« Reply #12 on: March 24, 2009, 09:12:03 PM »
Deicide were a Jewish conspiracy band. The only religion they ever denounced was Christianity.
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Re: Grave Forsaken - This Day Forth, 22nd May
« Reply #13 on: March 24, 2009, 09:19:30 PM »
It all makes perfect sense

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Re: Grave Forsaken - This Day Forth, 22nd May
« Reply #14 on: March 24, 2009, 10:17:26 PM »
Deicide were a Jewish conspiracy band. The only religion they ever denounced was Christianity.

There aren't too many bands that bash Islam. I can only think of about two bands that have had any anti-Islamic themes at all.




Anyway, anyone bothered to watch/listen to the new song?

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Re: Grave Forsaken - This Day Forth, 22nd May
« Reply #15 on: March 24, 2009, 11:09:21 PM »
A band without Christian members, but who write from a Christian perspective is "cashing in on a niche" :p



Faith +1  :headbang:

Exactly what I was thinking...
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Re: Grave Forsaken - This Day Forth, 22nd May
« Reply #16 on: March 25, 2009, 07:19:06 AM »


Anyway, anyone bothered to watch/listen to the new song?

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Re: Grave Forsaken - This Day Forth, 22nd May
« Reply #17 on: March 25, 2009, 06:56:07 PM »
Oh dear!

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Re: Grave Forsaken - This Day Forth, 22nd May
« Reply #18 on: March 30, 2009, 03:39:24 PM »
Deicide were a Jewish conspiracy band. The only religion they ever denounced was Christianity.

There aren't too many bands that bash Islam. I can only think of about two bands that have had any anti-Islamic themes at all.




Anyway, anyone bothered to watch/listen to the new song?

To be quite honest Rowland, alot of people wont give it the time of day mainly because they are just into the main bands in perths metal scene. Especially because their afraid of listening to somthing out of the norm.
Ive listened to it, i think theres a touch of slayer in there,just a little slower in speed
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Re: Grave Forsaken - This Day Forth, 22nd May
« Reply #19 on: March 30, 2009, 07:18:05 PM »
Anyway, anyone bothered to watch/listen to the new song?

To be quite honest Rowland, alot of people wont give it the time of day mainly because they are just into the main bands in perths metal scene. Especially because their afraid of listening to something out of the norm.
Ive listened to it, i think theres a touch of slayer in there,just a little slower in speed

Yeah, I know most people wont bother listening to it. Or at least wont admit to listening to it  :P


Interesting that you picked up a bit of a Slayer vibe, as that what they were going for when they were first working on putting that song together.

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Re: Grave Forsaken - This Day Forth, 22nd May
« Reply #20 on: March 30, 2009, 07:39:36 PM »
I listened to it and I thought it was GREAT  :headbang:






Not really, I didn't listen to it either  :laugh:
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Re: Grave Forsaken - This Day Forth, 22nd May
« Reply #21 on: March 30, 2009, 09:28:29 PM »
Religious bias aside, this actually sounds quite solid.

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Re: Grave Forsaken - This Day Forth, 22nd May
« Reply #22 on: March 31, 2009, 11:35:12 AM »
Religious bias aside, this actually sounds quite solid.

I think so. Its well put together.
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Re: Grave Forsaken - This Day Forth, 22nd May
« Reply #23 on: March 31, 2009, 12:08:08 PM »
Good stuff rowland!
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Re: Grave Forsaken - This Day Forth, 22nd May
« Reply #24 on: March 31, 2009, 01:26:55 PM »
Good stuff rowland!

I'm not in the band... but thanks anyway  :P