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Buying a guitar, what do you want??
« on: May 28, 2006, 01:18:57 PM »
Ok fellas, im currently desinging a new model of guitar, which will be built with the premise that they are sold at guitar stores, and direct from the manufacturer (me). I dont normally sell via a guitar store, as everything i make is custom made, one off pieces, so i deal directly with the clients.


I'd like some feedback please.

IDEA: Its a carved top, double cutaway style guitar, based on a mix of Gibson Les Paul Jr, PRS, Quicksilver, Driskill, etc. Fancy woods are the norm, but solid and metallic finishes will also be made.


FIRSTLY
, please select a neck joint from the poll here....


NEXT, you need to consider this as a PRS/Gibson type instrument, so the $2600-3500 mark is where they are going to be priced at. PLEASE KEEP THIS IN MIND.

Now.....
see below \\\\///// for the options i would like your opinion on.
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Re: Buying a guitar, what do you want??
« Reply #1 on: May 28, 2006, 01:19:20 PM »
Now, simply "quote" this post, and add your answer (or change it to bold) If something will add to the cost, ive indicated that.

Pickups: 2x humbucker with coil split, 2x humbucker + signle coil, three singles, 1x hum and 2 singles. (more $$)

Bridge: single piece wraparound (simular to PRS), tunomatic and stop tail, tunomatic and string through (more $$)

for trem models: floyd rose, wilkinson vs100

pickups: black or zebra (for hums)

tuners: locking, or no locking (more $$)

Inlays: std dots, or sharks (more $$) (sharks are NOT sharkfins..)
(see : http://www.monaro.com.au/guitars/diary/Custom%20Guitars/Workshop%20sample%20guitar/121-2140_IMG.jpg)

Frets: jumbo, or medium

Frets: std nickel silver or stainless steel (more $$)
« Last Edit: May 28, 2006, 01:21:42 PM by Ormsby_Guitars »

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Re: Buying a guitar, what do you want??
« Reply #2 on: May 28, 2006, 07:07:08 PM »
Now, simply "quote" this post, and add your answer (or change it to bold) If something will add to the cost, ive indicated that.

Pickups: 2x humbucker with coil split, 2x humbucker + signle coil, three singles, 1x hum and 2 singles. (more $$)

Bridge: single piece wraparound (simular to PRS), tunomatic and stop tail, tunomatic and string through (more $$)

for trem models: floyd rose, wilkinson vs100

pickups: black or zebra (for hums)

tuners: locking, or no locking (more $$)

Inlays: std dots, or sharks (more $$) (sharks are NOT sharkfins..)
(see : http://www.monaro.com.au/guitars/diary/Custom%20Guitars/Workshop%20sample%20guitar/121-2140_IMG.jpg)
Ugh any other options?, Sharks look tacky and dots are boring unless your going for the whole ocean theme
Frets: jumbo, or medium

Frets: std nickel silver or stainless steel (more $$)

Not sure the difference between the locking and no locking tuners but if i was to buy a custom i would say dam the expense and for the best possible after all it is your dream guitar.
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Re: Buying a guitar, what do you want??
« Reply #3 on: May 28, 2006, 09:23:36 PM »
Now, simply "quote" this post, and add your answer (or change it to bold) If something will add to the cost, ive indicated that.

Pickups: 2x humbucker with coil split, 2x humbucker + signle coil, three singles, 1x hum and 2 singles. (more $$)

Bridge: single piece wraparound (simular to PRS), tunomatic and stop tail, tunomatic and string through (more $$)

for trem models: floyd rose, wilkinson vs100

pickups: black or zebra (for hums)

tuners: locking, or no locking (more $$) (Through Grover tuners would be awsesome!)

Inlays: std dots, or sharks (more $$) (sharks are NOT sharkfins..)
(see : http://www.monaro.com.au/guitars/diary/Custom%20Guitars/Workshop%20sample%20guitar/121-2140_IMG.jpg)

Frets: jumbo, or medium

Frets: std nickel silver or stainless steel (more $$)
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Re: Buying a guitar, what do you want??
« Reply #4 on: May 28, 2006, 09:34:17 PM »
It sounds like you've made up your mind on the type of guitar you want to produce, but the super strats that you've done have been my favourites of your guitars.

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Re: Buying a guitar, what do you want??
« Reply #5 on: May 29, 2006, 01:00:06 AM »
Yeah, this is the "DC" model, which ive been TRYING to get finalised for 2 years now.

As much as i like doing customs, i would like to have one or two models which can be sold via stores, are easily produced (compared to full customs), and have a bunch of options to suit anyone.

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Re: Buying a guitar, what do you want??
« Reply #6 on: May 29, 2006, 07:55:44 AM »
what kind of production run would you be doing?

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Re: Buying a guitar, what do you want??
« Reply #7 on: May 29, 2006, 09:17:44 AM »
what kind of production run would you be doing?

at least five to start with, maybe 10. Then, as i need them, 3-5 at a time.

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Re: Buying a guitar, what do you want??
« Reply #8 on: May 29, 2006, 01:22:19 PM »


Pickups: 2x humbucker with coil split,

Bridge:  tunomatic and string through

for trem models: floyd rose,

pickups: black (for hums)

tuners: locking,

Inlays:  sharks

Frets: jumbo

Frets: stainless steel

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Re: Buying a guitar, what do you want??
« Reply #9 on: May 30, 2006, 07:43:50 AM »
whats the waiting line like for a custom and repairs. After reading these boards your about the only manufacturer in perth trustworthy. And i aint taking my guitar to a music shop again  ::)

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Re: Buying a guitar, what do you want??
« Reply #10 on: May 30, 2006, 09:32:19 AM »
whats the waiting line like for a custom and repairs. After reading these boards your about the only manufacturer in perth trustworthy. And i aint taking my guitar to a music shop again  ::)

but you do your own servicing, remember?


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Re: Buying a guitar, what do you want??
« Reply #11 on: May 30, 2006, 10:56:44 AM »
^ BAM !

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Re: Buying a guitar, what do you want??
« Reply #12 on: May 30, 2006, 05:18:26 PM »
whats the waiting line like for a custom and repairs. After reading these boards your about the only manufacturer in perth trustworthy. And i aint taking my guitar to a music shop again  ::)

but you do your own servicing, remember?



lol, yes i learned how to do my own servicing, it doesn't mean my servicing is any better than yours by a long shot. Since when did building your own guitar and doing repairs come under. "Basic guitar setup", or as you put it basically a re-string
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Re: Buying a guitar, what do you want??
« Reply #13 on: May 31, 2006, 11:49:10 AM »
Now, simply "quote" this post, and add your answer (or change it to bold) If something will add to the cost, ive indicated that.

Pickups: 2x humbucker with coil split, 2x humbucker + signle coil, three singles, 1x hum and 2 singles. (more $$)

Bridge: single piece wraparound (simular to PRS), tunomatic and stop tail, tunomatic and string through (more $$)

for trem models: floyd rose, wilkinson vs100

pickups: black or zebra (for hums)

tuners: locking, or no locking (more $$)

Inlays: std dots, or sharks (more $$) (sharks are NOT sharkfins..)
(see : http://www.monaro.com.au/guitars/diary/Custom%20Guitars/Workshop%20sample%20guitar/121-2140_IMG.jpg)

Frets: jumbo, or medium

Frets: std nickel silver or stainless steel (more $$)

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Re: Buying a guitar, what do you want??
« Reply #14 on: June 02, 2006, 10:30:04 PM »
Pickups: 2x humbucker with coil split
             -and- 1 vol, 1 tone, 3-way- if you could
Bridge:  tunomatic and stop tail

for trem models: wilkinson vs100

pickups: black

tuners: locking (grover or schaller)

Inlays: std dots (small -like musicmans) -for cheapest model .. those shark inlays for upper models

Frets: jumbo

Frets: std nickel silver (stainless steel =crap)

basswood body for cheaper, and korina body for expensive models .. please :D

if you could make them similar to quicksilvers.. you'd sell fuckin shitloads

when you plaining for them to come out ?
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Re: Buying a guitar, what do you want??
« Reply #15 on: June 02, 2006, 11:22:47 PM »
Frets: std nickel silver (stainless steel =crap)

Disbelieve what you read posted on some websites about the tone difference. Ive never had a customer that wasnt happy with s/steel frets as a refret, or new guitar. They are less maintenace, and easier to play on, PLUS they last three times longer.... which is the real reason most repairers dont want you to have them (plus they are extremely hard to get).


basswood body for cheaper, and korina body for expensive models .. please :D

I wont be using basswood. I have lots of Korina on its way, along with koa, blackwood, flame/spalt/quilt maple, walnut, cocobolo, etc etc etc etc



if you could make them similar to quicksilvers.. you'd sell fuckin shitloads

Ive been piss farting around talking about making these guitars for two years now.... i got a couple neck blanks made up, inlaid a few fretboards, even cut the body templates, but other things (damn customers :P) kept getting in the way. Ive made a few changes to allow me to get back into this project, so its all go now. Id seen the QSers on EDs site, but didnt realise how much they were like my ideas and thoughts until Cameltoe brough his guitar in. I guess it kinda of inspired me to get the ball rolling again. OR maybe it was cause he said he would have ordered a guitar if i didnt have a 18 month wait list :P Either way, there are a few stores that are busting to get some of my guitars, so its time to go retail :)


when you plaining for them to come out ?

I have to work these through the system without it effecting my current workload. Hence the need for an employee. Im hoping to have five by xmas. and maybe five a month or two later. But, ive got about 10 guitars to finish by xmas.... and six to finish within eight weeks :(
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Re: Buying a guitar, what do you want??
« Reply #16 on: June 03, 2006, 03:51:14 AM »
What do I want?

Perry told me what I wanted, and I just nodded like a dumb shit and took the guitar.

Simple.  :D


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Re: Buying a guitar, what do you want??
« Reply #17 on: June 05, 2006, 08:54:40 PM »

Ive been piss farting around talking about making these guitars for two years now.... i got a couple neck blanks made up, inlaid a few fretboards, even cut the body templates, but other things (damn customers :P) kept getting in the way. Ive made a few changes to allow me to get back into this project, so its all go now. Id seen the QSers on EDs site, but didnt realise how much they were like my ideas and thoughts until Cameltoe brough his guitar in. I guess it kinda of inspired me to get the ball rolling again. OR maybe it was cause he said he would have ordered a guitar if i didnt have a 18 month wait list :P Either way, there are a few stores that are busting to get some of my guitars, so its time to go retail :)


yer the craftsmanship on cameltoe's guitar is brilliant. what did you think of the 'black backs'?

do you know anything of the luthier ability of 'Jeff E. Terwilliger' ?
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Re: Buying a guitar, what do you want??
« Reply #18 on: June 05, 2006, 09:03:42 PM »
His mates and peers call him.... JET

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Re: Buying a guitar, what do you want??
« Reply #19 on: June 06, 2006, 08:19:58 AM »
and his guitars look good enough to beat up your mum with.....

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Re: Buying a guitar, what do you want??
« Reply #20 on: June 18, 2006, 09:59:18 PM »
Now, simply "quote" this post, and add your answer (or change it to bold) If something will add to the cost, ive indicated that.

Pickups: 2x humbucker with coil split, 2x humbucker + signle coil, three singles, 1x hum and 2 singles. (more $$)

Bridge: single piece wraparound (simular to PRS), tunomatic and stop tail, tunomatic and string through (more $$)

for trem models: floyd rose, wilkinson vs100

pickups: black or zebra (for hums)

tuners: locking, or no locking(of course thats if you decide to use a floyd rose rather than the wilkinson, if wilkinson use locking) (more $$)

Inlays: std dots, or sharks (more $$) (sharks are NOT sharkfins..) (neither get stars as your inlays or get block inlays)
(see : http://www.monaro.com.au/guitars/diary/Custom%20Guitars/Workshop%20sample%20guitar/121-2140_IMG.jpg)

Frets: jumbo, or medium

Frets: std nickel silver or stainless steel (more $$)
« Last Edit: June 18, 2006, 10:22:08 PM by azn_guitarist »

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Re: Buying a guitar, what do you want??
« Reply #21 on: June 19, 2006, 06:36:18 AM »
can you build neck thru, those fucking go off.

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Re: Buying a guitar, what do you want??
« Reply #22 on: June 19, 2006, 09:37:08 AM »
most of my guitars are neck throughs or set necks.

This design is more traditional, think PRS, Gibson, etc. So its either set neck, or bolt on.

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Re: Buying a guitar, what do you want??
« Reply #23 on: June 19, 2006, 03:52:01 PM »
i think if its going to be those styles it should be a set neck

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Re: Buying a guitar, what do you want??
« Reply #24 on: June 19, 2006, 04:35:10 PM »
I think doing both would be a good idea. Bolt-ons are great for players that do choppy, fast picking riffs. Bolt-ons have a more defined, sharper sound which is why dudes like Dino from Fear Factory uses them, because you can have super fast picking riffs with tonnes of distortion without it mushing together in one inaudible mess.

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Re: Buying a guitar, what do you want??
« Reply #25 on: July 05, 2006, 05:50:08 PM »

Pickups: 2x humbucker with coil split, 2x humbucker + signle coil, three singles, 1x hum and 2 singles. (more $$)

Bridge: single piece wraparound (simular to PRS), tunomatic and stop tail, tunomatic and string through (more $$)

for trem models: floyd rose, wilkinson vs100

pickups: black or zebra (for hums)

tuners: locking, or no locking (more $$)

Inlays: std dots, or sharks (more $$) (sharks are NOT sharkfins..)
(see : http://www.monaro.com.au/guitars/diary/Custom%20Guitars/Workshop%20sample%20guitar/121-2140_IMG.jpg)

Frets: jumbo, or medium

Frets: std nickel silver or stainless steel (more $$)

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Re: Buying a guitar, what do you want??
« Reply #26 on: July 05, 2006, 06:16:55 PM »
P.S. Nice Article in Australian Guitar mag.

I get wood from wood to  :P

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Re: Buying a guitar, what do you want??
« Reply #27 on: July 05, 2006, 09:37:38 PM »
P.S. Nice Article in Australian Guitar mag.

I get wood from wood to  :P

is that the one with John Frusciante on the cover and how the owner of the Womd Superstrat writes to the editor about his guitar

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Re: Buying a guitar, what do you want??
« Reply #28 on: July 06, 2006, 10:55:48 AM »
Na, the latest issue with Angus on the cover.

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Re: Buying a guitar, what do you want??
« Reply #29 on: July 06, 2006, 11:13:18 AM »
P.S. Nice Article in Australian Guitar mag.

I get wood from wood to  :P

haha cheers, i didnt think they'd print all the swearing ;)


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Re: Buying a guitar, what do you want??
« Reply #30 on: July 06, 2006, 03:37:10 PM »
must get mag then

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Re: Buying a guitar, what do you want??
« Reply #31 on: January 17, 2007, 06:02:57 PM »
Flying V's are the way of the future
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Re: Buying a guitar, what do you want??
« Reply #32 on: January 18, 2007, 06:32:14 AM »
Flying V's are the way of the future

Currently building 15 flying V's, and another three are booked for later in the year.  :headbang: :headbang:

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Re: Buying a guitar, what do you want??
« Reply #33 on: July 30, 2007, 06:09:29 PM »
What are all the options on a the Standard series (woods, shapes, bridges etc.), and what options incur a premium?

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Re: Buying a guitar, what do you want??
« Reply #34 on: July 30, 2007, 07:53:11 PM »
This is the specs list for the Standard Series, which arent related to the guitars originally planned when i posted this thread up (they are still being planned).

Body shape (Rear routed bodies, no pickguards): Soloist, Strat, Tele, Rhoads V, std Flying  V, Explorer, Mockingbird or Charvel Star shapes only. 

Body shape (Front routed, pickguard): Soloist, std Flying  V, Explorer, Strat, Tele.

Headstocks, Either of the two Ormsby styles, both either standard and reverse. Strat bodies only, can have a strat inspired (not fender) headstock.

Neck: 22 fret, Rosewood, or maple fretboard. Dot inlays. Jumbo or medium fretwire only (nickel silver).
 
Hardware: Gotoh tuners, Genuine Floyd Rose Original (floating). Chrome or black (Gold +$50)
 
Pickups: EMG 81 and 85 set, OR Seymour Duncan JB and '59 set.
(alternative pickups available at slight upcharge)
 
Paintwork: Your choice of Two Pack colour, metallics, etc. Headstocks either same colour as the body, or black. 
 
TOTAL COST: $1950
 
UPGRADES:
Body: 
Alexi mod to Rhoads body: $50
 
Neck: 
Pearloid Sharkfins: $200
Ebony fretboard: $50
24 fret neck: $100
birdseye or flame (AAA) $100
birdseye or flame (AAAAA) $200
 
Hardware:
Gold: $50
chrome or gold humbucker rings: $40
 
Pickups: POA
 
Paintwork: Sunbursts +$100, Chameleon paints +$200, Vortex swirl +$300, graphics extra (airbrushed).

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Re: Buying a guitar, what do you want??
« Reply #35 on: July 30, 2007, 07:59:36 PM »
Cool. What about body and neck woods?

All are bolt-on and 25.5" scale aren't they?

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Re: Buying a guitar, what do you want??
« Reply #36 on: July 30, 2007, 09:03:45 PM »
25.5" scale only

maple, mahog, standard for necks
mahog, alder, swamp ash, korina (white limba), standard for bodies.


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« Reply #37 on: July 30, 2007, 09:09:35 PM »
Mint.

...and is a Floyd Rose the only bridge option?

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Re: Buying a guitar, what do you want??
« Reply #38 on: July 30, 2007, 09:29:01 PM »
At the moment, but i might change that to include string through tunomatic. Not in the next month though.

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« Reply #39 on: July 31, 2007, 01:38:01 PM »
Yeah, I'd definately go for the string through tunomatic.

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Re: Buying a guitar, what do you want??
« Reply #40 on: July 31, 2007, 05:12:19 PM »
Yeah I want another explorer to add to my collection but with a floyd rose would be sacrilege ;)
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Re: Buying a guitar, what do you want??
« Reply #41 on: July 31, 2007, 06:00:54 PM »
Yeah, I'd definately go for the string through tunomatic.

Yeah I want another explorer to add to my collection but with a floyd rose would be sacrilege ;)

Well guys, come see me then. Ive not yet had anyone make any serious enquiries about tunomatic equipped Standard Series guitars, so ive been reluctant to develop the templates. Im happy to tool up, if someone is will to buy one. Price would be cheaper than the Floyd versions, by $100

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Re: Buying a guitar, what do you want??
« Reply #42 on: July 31, 2007, 07:44:50 PM »
Sounds good. Might have to wait till my PRS Modern Eagle sells.

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Re: Buying a guitar, what do you want??
« Reply #43 on: July 31, 2007, 07:59:08 PM »
I'll do you a straight swap :P


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« Reply #44 on: July 31, 2007, 08:15:47 PM »
Wow. You just showed me that there is a limit to my sickness  :laugh:

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« Reply #45 on: August 01, 2007, 01:18:01 PM »
So payment on these is structured the same as your full customs or do you need a full payment up front?
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Re: Buying a guitar, what do you want??
« Reply #46 on: August 01, 2007, 07:04:20 PM »
50% deposit, final 50% payment on pickup (8-12 weeks later) for the Standard Series.

5 x 1/5 payments for the CustomShop guitars, throughout the 12+ month build

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« Reply #47 on: June 03, 2009, 01:45:27 PM »
anybody trialled or own the Seymour Duncan Blackout AHB1 or the metal AHB?   any good?  say compared to an EMG?
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